Hi all, Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope? I'd just love to install new products, update products already installed, get notified when I need a Hotfix etc. The product listing at Zope.org is getting longer all the time and I am having a hard time keeping up to date... Just a thought. Probably been thought of before :) Cya Jonathan
On Friday 22 December 2000, at 12 h 50, the keyboard of "Jonathan \(ListServ Account\)" <listsmurf@ur.nl> wrote:
Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope?
It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght of Perl (if someone cites the Vaults as a Python equivalent, it means he never used the CPAN). In the mean time, I've reserved czan.org and .net (for the community: of course, I will give them back freely when someone will implement it) unless people prefer zopefind.net (like rpmfind.net)?
It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght of Perl (if someone cites the Vaults as a Python equivalent, it means he never used the CPAN).
In the mean time, I've reserved czan.org and .net (for the community: of course, I will give them back freely when someone will implement it) unless people prefer zopefind.net (like rpmfind.net)?
Somebody has to own the domain :) I'm got space available for a CZAN mirror if necessary. It might be something that benefits the Python community as a whole, not just Zope users, in which case 'CZAN' is not entirely correct ;) But hey, let's start somewhere right? Such a product would allow users to access CZAN from within the Zope Interface and work a bit like MS' Windows Update (if you're not familiar with it, it rules for upgrading Windows machines over the Internet). Install new products, new versions, hotfixes. Upgrade Zope itself. Integrate with ZEO etc. to upgrade clusters of machines all at once... Just thinking out loud here :) Anyone from DigiCool care to comment? How much of it is already in the pipeline? Cya Jonathan
On Friday 22 December 2000, at 12 h 50, the keyboard of "Jonathan \(ListServ Account\)" <listsmurf@ur.nl> wrote:
Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope?
It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght of Perl (if someone cites the Vaults as a Python equivalent, it means he never used the CPAN).
What does cpan give you that zope.org doesnt, I can go into zope.org, look at modules documentation, download them and so on. Same with CPAN. Ok so maybe it doesnt have simple and interfaces to it such as listings by author, module and so on... The next step would be automated installation, which would be nice. A simple interface to select a module, install it and restart your Zope. A much extended Control Panel...
What does cpan give you that zope.org doesnt, I can go into zope.org, look at modules documentation, download them and so on. Same with CPAN. Ok so maybe it doesnt have simple and interfaces to it such as listings by author, module and so on...
The next step would be automated installation, which would be nice. A simple interface to select a module, install it and restart your Zope. A much extended Control Panel...
Zope.org does not know my particular installation, I cannot have it notify me when a new version is out. It doesn't automatically 'follow' dependencies etc. etc. Lots of reasons, mainly motivated by laziness^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H me not having the time to keep up with everything, I want to be informed automatically :) Cya Jonathan
Lots of reasons, mainly motivated by laziness^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H me not having the time to keep up with everything, I want to be informed automatically :)
Cya Jonathan
:) laziness is good, otherwise people would just keep doing things the hard way...
I did actually start toying with this on the holidays for the hell of it. But then got bored and started relaxing instead. Basically my first task was putting basic product info in a more friendly xml format... http://zope.agmweb.ca/Zope/products -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy McKay" <andym@ActiveState.com> To: "Jonathan (Listserv Account)" <listsmurf@ur.nl>; "zope-misc" <zope@zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?
Lots of reasons, mainly motivated by laziness^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H me not having the time to keep up with everything, I want to be informed automatically :)
Cya Jonathan
:) laziness is good, otherwise people would just keep doing things the hard way...
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From a web point of view it would be nice if we could get the products and information in a more flexible format. Maybe an rdf or other xml file of the products. Then it would be a simple matter to write something that parses that...
I think you also we need to separate CPAN functionality from PPM. PPM is the bit that downloads and installs the files locally. -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@pasteur.fr> To: "Jonathan (ListServ Account)" <listsmurf@ur.nl> Cc: "Zope Mailinglist" <zope@zope.org> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] CZAN Anyone?
On Friday 22 December 2000, at 12 h 50, the keyboard of "Jonathan \(ListServ Account\)" <listsmurf@ur.nl> wrote:
Does anyone have any plans for CPAN like functionality for Zope?
It would be a very good idea. The CPAN is the main strenght of Perl (if someone cites the Vaults as a Python equivalent, it means he never used the CPAN).
In the mean time, I've reserved czan.org and .net (for the community: of course, I will give them back freely when someone will implement it) unless people prefer zopefind.net (like rpmfind.net)?
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And upon Friday of December 22, the illustrious Andy McKay spake thusly... <snip>
I think you also we need to separate CPAN functionality from PPM. PPM is the bit that downloads and installs the files locally.
Well, if you're going to be pedantic -- then it's only fair to mention that PPM is of ActiveState's devising, otherwise 'perl -MCPAN -e shell' does the trick, using Bundle::CPAN. Sorry... just had to point that out. (c8= Beers, Corey
Well, if you're going to be pedantic -- then it's only fair to mention that PPM is of ActiveState's devising, otherwise 'perl -MCPAN -e shell' does the trick, using Bundle::CPAN.
Sorry... just had to point that out. (c8=
Very true, just covering my own little world there for obvious reasons... mind you the growth of ppm so to non ActiveState repositories has been great. -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState.
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