hi all, i'm happy to say that our site (www.emedia.com.my) has been running steadily since feb. and we got our first 1M hits per day yesterday, and zope didn't screeched to a halt. now i'm wondering how much resource <dtml-if> ..<dtml-call>, <dtml-in> affect the sending out of data to users. will a lot of if and ins bog down the server? i wanted to do two different page for the same contents i.e. pages with tables, and without tables. i intend to do as what zope.org does for printable page where we set a variable in the url or maybe set a cookie. to do that, i need to have an if statement in all files looking for that particular variable and render the apropriate header file. will this affect response time? i've looked at chameleon skin but could not grasp the way it works. if anyone got better ideas, better solution, shoot it here. thanks -- ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.kedai.com.my/kk Am I Evil?
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hi all, i'm happy to say that our site (www.emedia.com.my) has been running steadily since feb. and we got our first 1M hits per day yesterday, and zope didn't screeched to a halt.
now i'm wondering how much resource <dtml-if> ..<dtml-call>, <dtml-in> affect the sending out of data to users. will a lot of if and ins bog down the server?
Bog? No.
i wanted to do two different page for the same contents i.e. pages with tables, and without tables. i intend to do as what zope.org does for printable page where we set a variable in the url or maybe set a cookie. to do that, i need to have an if statement in all files looking for that particular variable and render the apropriate header file. will this affect response time?
Yes. Measureable in milliseconds. It's really not that much to worry about just doing one conditional evaluation. What you really want to avoid are long loops. -Michel
Hi, Can you please tell us what is the configuration of your machine. I am very interested. We had our servers crawl to halt when we used Zope but we had other things running at the same time. So I will appretiate it if you can give us the configuration. Are you using a database? Is it on the same machine or by itself, and if so what are the configuration of the supporitng servers. 1M pages/day is a great number, I think that if a farm configuration is used you can create an extremely dynamic and scalable site. TIA Adonis -- Adonis El Fakih - President, CEO -- EGS, Inc. 70 Boston Road, Suite A301, Chelmsford MA 01824 USA Fax (978) 244-0544 - adonis@egsx.com On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, - wrote:
hi all, i'm happy to say that our site (www.emedia.com.my) has been running steadily since feb. and we got our first 1M hits per day yesterday, and zope didn't screeched to a halt.
now i'm wondering how much resource <dtml-if> ..<dtml-call>, <dtml-in> affect the sending out of data to users. will a lot of if and ins bog down the server? i wanted to do two different page for the same contents i.e. pages with tables, and without tables. i intend to do as what zope.org does for printable page where we set a variable in the url or maybe set a cookie. to do that, i need to have an if statement in all files looking for that particular variable and render the apropriate header file. will this affect response time? i've looked at chameleon skin but could not grasp the way it works.
if anyone got better ideas, better solution, shoot it here. thanks
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2000, technews@egsx.com wrote:
Hi,
Can you please tell us what is the configuration of your machine. I am very interested. We had our servers crawl to halt when we used Zope but we had other things running at the same time. So I will appretiate it if you can give us the configuration. Are you using a database? Is it on the same machine or by itself, and if so what are the configuration of the supporitng servers.
1M pages/day is a great number, I think that if a farm configuration is used you can create an extremely dynamic and scalable site.
TIA Adonis
hi, we have a PIII 500 M, dual processor running rh6.1 with 712M RAM. there's only zope there, and mysql to cater for banner ads. i'm using phpAds for now until we got a commercial ad server or until there exist a mature banner ad products for zope. (i'mm eyeing banner ad with interest tho..) everything is in one server, although we're looking at adding another server for redundency. don't know yet how to go about this. anybody got any pointers? maybe failoverd? (http://ps-ax.com/failoverd/ ) or eddie?(www.eddieware.org) the 1M number is hits, not pages. we have max 600k pages/day last feb. this is our second month so, hopefully zope lives up to its standard.. or i'll need to find another job *grin* ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.kedai.com.my/kk Am I Evil?
To fully round out this little performance study (small study of course) could you tell us what capacity the machine is at as far as you know, what Zope version you are running and with what configuration (Zserver alone, w/ Apache etc)? These kinds of things are really helpful in determining Zope's ability to scale and in winning out the hearts of iCEO's. Thanks, JMA
hi, we have a PIII 500 M, dual processor running rh6.1 with 712M RAM. there's only zope there, and mysql to cater for banner ads. i'm using phpAds for now until we got a commercial ad server or until there exist a mature banner ad products for zope. (i'mm eyeing banner ad with interest tho..) everything is in one server, although we're looking at adding another server for redundency. don't know yet how to go about this. anybody got any pointers? maybe failoverd? (http://ps-ax.com/failoverd/ ) or eddie?(www.eddieware.org)
the 1M number is hits, not pages. we have max 600k pages/day last feb. this is our second month so, hopefully zope lives up to its standard.. or i'll need to find another job *grin*
On Thu, 02 Mar 2000, Jatwood@bwanazulia.com wrote:
To fully round out this little performance study (small study of course) could you tell us what capacity the machine is at as far as you know, what Zope version you are running and with what configuration (Zserver alone, w/ Apache etc)?
These kinds of things are really helpful in determining Zope's ability to scale and in winning out the hearts of iCEO's.
Thanks, JMA
okey dokey. the setup is not that big. we're just starting out and are just feeling our way here. what we have: a PIII 500 M compaq 5500 ,smartscsi with RH 6.1, zope 2.1.3. i tried running zserver with fast cgi but it choked with high load. so, in the end, it's apache with pcgi. so far, it handles all the traffic beautifully. what we want, however - reliability, availability of our site, so that's where we need to look now. caching is also another matter. currently we enabled apache expire module, but not quite sure whether that would have any effect on pages served by zope. ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.kedai.com.my/kk Am I Evil?
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a PIII 500 M compaq 5500 ,smartscsi with RH 6.1, zope 2.1.3. i tried running zserver with fast cgi but it choked with high load. so, in the end, it's apache with pcgi. so far, it handles all the traffic beautifully.
About FastCGI: Have a look at this tip: http://www.zope.org/Members/ppetru/BlockingFCGI Maybe it solves your choking problem. Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ | The Open Source Web Application Server ---------------------------------------------
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