RE: My last post. :) I have a friend who set me up with zope and he took a look at my problem and came up with this fix for the zope ZopeZoo tutorial: <ul> <dtml-with ZopeZoo> <dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')"> <li><a href="&dtml-absolute_url;"><dtml-var title_or_id></a><br></li> </dtml-in> </dtml-with> </ul> That's in the 'navigation' object. Now, it works. But, why didn't it say that in the tutorial? Is this something new in Zope that has to be done? Can somebody enlighten me as to this thing, please? :) Thanks, Nat. :)