Get a laugh on this one, my very first Zope website is still running on a 133 mhz Pentium-I running NT 4.0. Occasionally I go to update a few bits and get quite a shock at the ugly interface (compared to 2.4). What a long way we have come in two years, congratulations Zope Corp. I suppose I should upgrade.. wow, come to think of it, the entire site is out of date :-( ---- You are running Zope version: Zope 1.10.3 (binary release, python 1.5.1, win32-x86), on Python 1.5.1 (#0, Nov 18 1998, 12:17:58) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)] on win32. Zope has been running (with a process ID of 571) for 23 days 1 hour 26 min 35 sec. Click "Shutdown" to shutdown the Zope process. Zope be restarted on the next web request. Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com AOL-IM: BKClements