if you are referring to the fact that the term "group" is used in conjunction with the LDAPUserFolder then it is only because records that contain references to other records are usually named something with "group". the LDAP concept of groups has nothing to do with group concepts in other user folders. jens On Sunday, Apr 13, 2003, at 18:02 US/Eastern, David Orr wrote:

I understand what roles are but am having trouble working out how to use groups with reference to roles. For example does a group have a role or do people have a role within the group? Or can it be both? I am trying to tie this all in with LDAPUserFolder and the GroupUserFolder but still not "getting it".

Any help greatly appreciated.

David Orr