I have a folderish ZClass containing objects, such as DTML Methods. As it turns out, while those objects are attached to the class definition, not the class instances, there is no way to _override_ those objects by placing, say, a DTML Method in the instance with the same name as that inside the class. (Instead, you must derive a new ZClass from the first, and override them there.) It seems that convention is to have the ZClass/product create "default objects" upon construction. Confera, Squishdot, etc. all do this. I wonder if there should be a standard way of doing creating such default objects. I currently put objects in my ZClasses and name them things like "TemplateFoo". Then the constructor for that class does something like: <dtml-let Obj="TodoFolder.createInObjectManager(REQUEST['id'], REQUEST)"> <dtml-call "manage_addProduct['OFSP'].addDTMLMethod(Item, 'Foo', file = Obj.TemplateFoo)"> </dtml-let> ...which copies TemplateFoo from the class into the newly created instance. Of course, while this works, it feels kludgy. Comments? -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein