What do you mean just sits there... are you able to access the site? If you run Win95 you cant run a service, so starting Zope means you will have the dos-prompt running with (seemingly) no activity. -- Andy McKay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@mitretek.org> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Running Zope Under Win95

John Gregory asked -

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I've downloaded the latest stable release of Zope to use under Win95 as a personal server for web site development testing.

Trouble is when I run start.bat I get 2 separate bursts of HD activity then the program just sits there.

I ran with no trouble under Win95. But there is always a long delay at startup. I ***think*** it's trying to do a reverse DNS lookup on its own IP address. If you're not on a network it would be waiting for that attempt to time out. At any rate, a ridiculous delay at startup is what I always got. Not like 5 minutes, though, maybe 1 minute.

It should print out information like the ports it's using in the console window once it's ready for use. That's how you can tell.

Cheers,

Tom P

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The length of time it 'waits' gets longer as the Data.fs file gets bigger. When you know this it sort of makes sense. The only exception to this is if the Data.fs has been deleted (such as for a clean of the ODB or on a new CVS installation), since it has to create a new blank Data.fs file. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@mitretek.org> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Running Zope Under Win95

Andy McKay asked -

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What do you mean just sits there... are you able to access the site? If you run Win95 you cant run a service, so starting Zope means you will have the dos-prompt running with (seemingly) no activity. -- Yes, it sits there for about a minute on several of my installations. You see the DOS prompt in the DOS console, but you can't access the site. Then it prints out the port information on the DOS console and then you can access the site.

Tom P

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----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas B. Passin <tpassin@mitretek.org> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Running Zope Under Win95

John Gregory asked -

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I've downloaded the latest stable release of Zope to use under Win95 as a personal server for web site development testing.

Trouble is when I run start.bat I get 2 separate bursts of HD activity then the program just sits there.

I ran with no trouble under Win95. But there is always a long delay at startup. I ***think*** it's trying to do a reverse DNS lookup on its own IP address. If you're not on a network it would be waiting for that attempt to time out. At any rate, a ridiculous delay at startup is what I always got. Not like 5 minutes, though, maybe 1 minute.

It should print out information like the ports it's using in the console window once it's ready for use. That's how you can tell.

I regularly run Zope happily on Win95 and Win98Se. On occasion, I have also noticed some massive delays including during even simple edits or requests. In my experience these have been easily fixed by making sure you edit your 'hosts' file. Open the text file C:/Windows/hosts in any ASCII editor and include a line such as: 64.7.9.195 jasonic #Sony Vaio Laptop where the first number is the IP number set for your machine, the name 'jasonic' is whatever name you want to use for your machine, and the last is a comment if you wish. BTW 'hosts' is named just that .. not 'hosts.txt' or 'hosts.doc' ... be sure of no DOS-like suffix. An obvious advantage if this is that you can open a browser and enter http://jasonic instead of http://64.7.9.195. Or even just 'jasonic', and if Zope is running, it will open fine. If you have other machines on a LAN as I do, simply add those also to the hosts file and likewise edit their hosts files. This makes it useful to demo and work more productively. Other tips include adding a link to IE's toolbar for /manage and save your password when requested. That way it comes up much faster for frequent edits. I run Zope in the background almost all the time, by dropping an alias of my Zope start.bat into Windows 'StartUp' fodler. I do this becuase I want to know that I can do so and for travelling+demos - part of a long term strategy I am working on for peer-peer using Zope and Flash. Win95 and Win98Se have been fine for this. I have not tested 2.3.1 on Win95 yet. Msot problems I have are the typical ones of not enough HD space {liek when it gets cluttered with DV captures} or empyting browser Cache after massive online downloads or Flash testing sessions. Check your preferences and remember $100 Extra RAM does help. It made a 4 year old Win95 AcerTravelmate 266Mhz run twice as well.:-) hth - Jason ___________________________________________________________ Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS['Interactive Art and Technology']