Hi all, I have my first complette Zope app and I need to publish it from workstation to the net. Does somebody let me know how to make success with %subj% and VirtualHostMonster (or some other method of virtual domains)? I have read many documentation about Zope and apache, but apache need local access to Zope files. I have low power web server linux PC with apache (486/16MB ram), and powerfull (4xCPU, GB ram etc) NTserver with Zope. So it is possible to connect these two different machines? My chief does not want to invest money to better hardware for linux - it is for free, so HW must be free too (no comment, please). Running apache on NT server is impossible from security reasons (is on internal network, not in DMZ). It is possible to serve pages (no more than one hit per 3-10 seconds) with that hardwares? Many thanks for your help. Regards J. Lukesh
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:50PM +0200, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
Does somebody let me know how to make success with %subj% and VirtualHostMonster (or some other method of virtual domains)? I have read many documentation about Zope and apache, but apache need local access to Zope files.
Not if you use the RewriteRule method found at http://www.zope.org/Members/mwr/VHosts_With_Zope_Default (and other similar howtos). As long as Zope opens its own HTTP port on your Windows workstation, and as long as Apache can contact it over the network, you'll be fine.
It is possible to serve pages (no more than one hit per 3-10 seconds) with that hardwares?
Should be. I think years ago Apache could saturate a 10Mbit network with a 486; yours should surely be capable of handling a few requests per second. -- Mike Renfro / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research, 931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:57:10AM -0500, Mike Renfro wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:50PM +0200, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
It is possible to serve pages (no more than one hit per 3-10 seconds) with that hardwares?
Should be. I think years ago Apache could saturate a 10Mbit network with a 486; yours should surely be capable of handling a few requests per second.
The problem will be with complex pages. You'll have to avoid doing complex ZCatalog queries, for example, on the homepage or that little 486 will be CPU bound. Relatively static pages should be OK. I know it's starting to get hard to find, but I'd recommend scrounging around for some more memory. You may have some other old machines lying around that you can pillage. -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org wilson@visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com
Am Mit, 2002-08-14 um 16.09 schrieb Tim Wilson:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:57:10AM -0500, Mike Renfro wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:50PM +0200, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
It is possible to serve pages (no more than one hit per 3-10 seconds) with that hardwares?
Should be. I think years ago Apache could saturate a 10Mbit network with a 486; yours should surely be capable of handling a few requests per second.
The problem will be with complex pages. You'll have to avoid doing complex ZCatalog queries, for example, on the homepage or that little 486 will be CPU bound. Relatively static pages should be OK. I know it's starting to get hard to find, but I'd recommend scrounging around for some more memory. You may have some other old machines lying around that you can pillage. Well, this shouldn't be a problem. The orginal poster mentioned that he intends to use the Linux 486 only as a reverse proxy, and this should be ok.
Although look at http://www.apsis.ch/pound, this might be more lightweigth. Andreas
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 14:54, you wrote:
Hi all,
I have my first complette Zope app and I need to publish it from workstation to the net.
Does somebody let me know how to make success with %subj% and VirtualHostMonster (or some other method of virtual domains)? I have read many documentation about Zope and apache, but apache need local access to Zope files.
I have low power web server linux PC with apache (486/16MB ram), and powerfull (4xCPU, GB ram etc) NTserver with Zope. So it is possible to connect these two different machines? My chief does not want to invest money to better hardware for linux - it is for free, so HW must be free too (no comment, please). Running apache on NT server is impossible from security reasons (is on internal network, not in DMZ).
It is possible to serve pages (no more than one hit per 3-10 seconds) with that hardwares?
Many thanks for your help.
Regards J. Lukesh
Apache does NOT need access to Zope, except via the HTTP port. This happens to be true of any proxy (which Apache essentially is in this role). Set up Zope on your NT machine the usual way and have the proxy access it as an HTTP server. Regretably, Zope won't take advantage of multiple CPU's - that's a python limitation, so you're wasting your NT machine. You may want to consider using a smaller hardware setup there. If you arer really worried about performance (which shouldn't be an issue at 10 hits/second unless you have extremely complex stuff) you may want to look at multiple single-CPU machines running against a ZEO backend. I should think that the old 486 is more than enough for anything less than 25-40 pages/second (in the proxy role). However, I would consider adding a bit more RAM - 16MB is small. In any case make sure Linux runs without a graphical desktop and with as few services enabled as possible (which you should do anyway for a machine in the DMZ). For a lightweight alternative to Apache in the proxy role try our Pound proxy server at http://www.apsis.ch/pound - it does exactly what you need and was designed for that, avoiding the overhead of a full-fledged web server. -- Robert Segall Apsis GmbH Postfach, Uetikon am See, CH-8707 Tel: +41-1-920 4904
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