Zope, Lotus, Exchange, Netscape Server
Dear people, i'm new to Zope and am in search for a way to do the following: central document-administration adress-administration date-scheduler (I'm translating back from german here - maybe all of this together is called groupware?) All of this for only about 10 hosts, running under Win95/98 I would like to use Zope on a LINUX server for this, but am aware that Lotus Domino may be the way to go - i just don't know if there *are* such Products for Zope ... Can someone point me to the right direction? ;-) Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
Greetings Thomas and welcome to the Zope list. One place you may want to start is WorldPilot (http://www.worldpilot.org). WorldPilot is a will handle some of your needs. Its a web based PIM with e-mail, scheduling, address book, and to-do list functions. What type of document administration are you looking to do? I have some Notes/Domino experience and if that is your reference point I may be able to help you find answers based on Notes style solutions. -- Jack Ungerleider The Ungerleider Group Creative Solutions for Cooperative Computing jack@jacku.com www.jacku.com On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
Dear people, i'm new to Zope and am in search for a way to do the following:
central document-administration adress-administration date-scheduler
(I'm translating back from german here - maybe all of this together is called groupware?)
All of this for only about 10 hosts, running under Win95/98
I would like to use Zope on a LINUX server for this, but am aware that Lotus Domino may be the way to go - i just don't know if there *are* such Products for Zope ...
Can someone point me to the right direction? ;-)
Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
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On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:51:48PM -0600, Jack Ungerleider wrote:
Greetings Thomas and welcome to the Zope list.
Thanx ;-)
One place you may want to start is WorldPilot (http://www.worldpilot.org). WorldPilot is a will handle some of your needs. Its a web based PIM with e-mail, scheduling, address book, and to-do list functions.
It looks fine, so far and i downloaded it. I'm not sure if i understand the Workgroup-sharing correctly - can different users participate at the same Address-book or Calendar? I mean does it support a shared calendar for several people? If yes, this Product is my way to go and Zope and WorldPilot will get another Licence ;-)
What type of document administration are you looking to do? I have some Notes/Domino experience and if that is your reference point I may be able to help you find answers based on Notes style solutions.
I'm not entirely sure here - the client wants something that would be covered by the Microsoft Exchange Server ... but as a LINUX guy i prefer to use LINUX and Zope. As i can tell, Notes/Domino may be exactly what is on my clients mind! Do you know something that could would fit this? Thanx a bunch so far for you fast and nice reply! Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 02:17:25PM +0100, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
It looks fine, so far and i downloaded it.
I'm a bit confused, as WorldPilot does not appear in the list of addable Products (as others i installed did ...) Are there known bugs in INSTALL.txt? Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
Now I'm confused. You have to restart the Zope server after untarring the package. Does WorldPilot show up on the Product Management page? If not maybe it was unpacked into the wrong place. Did you set up the directories that are listed in the INSTALL.txt. One change that can be made to the instructions is the permission settings on the created directories. You can set them to 755 and user to the user that runs Zope and group to its primary group. For example I run zope with user jack.users so my directories look like this: drwxr-xr-x 2 jack users 1024 Feb 17 21:33 sessions drwxr-xr-x 3 jack users 1024 Feb 1 23:04 storage drwxr-xr-x 2 jack users 1024 Feb 1 23:04 user The first time installed WorldPilot I think I had a permission error and ended up with a broken product in the Product Management section. Hope this helps. Jack On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 02:17:25PM +0100, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
It looks fine, so far and i downloaded it.
I'm a bit confused, as WorldPilot does not appear in the list of addable Products (as others i installed did ...)
Are there known bugs in INSTALL.txt?
Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS -- Jack Ungerleider The Ungerleider Group Creative Solutions for Cooperative Computing jack@jacku.com www.jacku.com
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 04:44:25PM -0600, Jack Ungerleider wrote:
Now I'm confused. You have to restart the Zope server after untarring the package. Does WorldPilot show up on the Product Management page?
Nope ... I installed Zope-2.1.4-linux2-x86 and worldpilot-release-1.0.4.tar from the zope-topdir. It installs correctly in ~/lib/python/Products/WorldPilot, but when restarting the server, there is no "WorldPilot" or something similar in "Available Objects" ...
Did you set up the directories that are listed in the INSTALL.txt.
I did: umask 000 mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/storage mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/storage/user mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/sessions mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/user chmod -R 700 /var/spool/worldpilot I set "DOMAIN.py" to domain="math.uni-bonn.de"
One change that can be made to the instructions is the permission settings on the created directories. You can set them to 755 and user to the user that runs Zope and group to its primary group. For example I run zope with user jack.users so my directories look like this:
drwxr-xr-x 2 jack users 1024 Feb 17 21:33 sessions drwxr-xr-x 3 jack users 1024 Feb 1 23:04 storage drwxr-xr-x 2 jack users 1024 Feb 1 23:04 user
This is my topdir: root@final:/home/zope,# ls total 66 -rw-r--r-- 1 zope users 3479 Mar 10 1999 LICENSE.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 zope users 987 Apr 29 1999 README.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 zope users 225 Jul 23 1999 install* -rw-r--r-- 1 zope users 8806 Oct 28 19:54 zpasswd.py drwxr-xr-x 4 zope users 1024 Nov 26 22:56 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 2 zope users 1024 Nov 26 22:58 import/ drwxrwxr-x 3 zope users 1024 Feb 9 21:36 doc/ drwxrwxr-x 2 zope users 1024 Feb 9 21:36 bin/ drwxr-xr-x 2 zope users 1024 Mar 10 21:38 worldpilot-1.0.4/ drwxrwxr-x 4 zope users 1024 Mar 13 16:46 ZServer/ drwxrwxr-x 2 zope users 1024 Mar 13 16:46 inst/ drwxrwxr-x 7 zope users 1024 Mar 13 16:47 pcgi/ drwxrwxr-x 2 zope users 1024 Mar 13 16:47 utilities/ -rw-rw-r-- 1 zope users 10729 Mar 13 16:47 z2.pyc -rw-rw-r-- 1 zope users 5340 Mar 13 16:47 zpasswd.pyc -rwxr-xr-x 1 zope users 537 Mar 13 16:47 Zope.cgi* -rwx--x--x 1 zope users 162 Mar 13 16:47 start* -rwx--x--x 1 zope users 60 Mar 13 16:47 stop* -rw------- 1 zope users 38 Mar 13 16:48 access -rw-r--r-- 1 zope users 18312 Mar 16 21:53 z2.py drwxrwxr-x 2 zope users 1024 Mar 29 20:31 Products/ drwxrwxr-x 3 zope users 1024 Mar 29 22:08 var/ I already installed some products, like Etailer and EMarket and such, but never had such a problem ... What can i do to *findÜ the error's source? Thanx in advance and Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
I thought that i found the error - WorldPilot is the only Product i ever tried that uses DOS-Fileformat for (some) of it's files ... I converted those ^M (meaning ) to UNIX-format, but it still does not show up in the available objects ;-( Still, those DOS-format may be part of the problem?!?! Confused ... Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
I did:
umask 000 mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/storage mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/storage/user mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/sessions mkdir /var/spool/worldpilot/user chmod -R 700 /var/spool/worldpilot
That was the error ... the INSTALL.txt did not mention setting the user and group of those directories ... Now, i used chown -R zope.users /var/spool/worldpilot and it worked. That about stupidly following some installation-docs ;-( Sorry for disturbing you ... STILL: I cannot manage to get shared calendar entries - meaning, i cannot assing dates for all or some of the users ... i tried Conf/Trans Conf/Opaq Pub/Trans Pub/Opaq Entries, but none of those will show up on other users entries ... (I allowed for Subscribe, Browsable and Read under Sharing) Any idea? ;-) -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
It looks fine, so far and i downloaded it. I'm not sure if i understand the Workgroup-sharing correctly - can different users participate at the same Address-book or Calendar? I mean does it support a shared calendar for several people?
If yes, this Product is my way to go and Zope and WorldPilot will get another Licence ;-)
The following test was done with the WorldPilot Note facility and I suspect would be similar in the calendar. I have three test users on the system tester1, tester2, and tester3. I logged in as tester 1 and created 3 notes: 1 private, 1 public, and 1 confidential. I then added tester2 in the sharing page with browse and read access. Tester3 only got browse access. Tester1 sees all three notes, tester 2 the public and confidential, and tester3 the public. If you have resources that need scheduling you should be able to set up userids for the resource and let it have a calendar that is open to appropriate people to read and/or edit. There may be a easier way to do this and maybe Ryan will let us know if/when he sees this. :-)
What type of document administration are you looking to do? I have some Notes/Domino experience and if that is your reference point I may be able to help you find answers based on Notes style solutions.
I'm not entirely sure here - the client wants something that would be covered by the Microsoft Exchange Server ... but as a LINUX guy i prefer to use LINUX and Zope. As i can tell, Notes/Domino may be exactly what is on my clients mind! Do you know something that could would fit this?
Thanx a bunch so far for you fast and nice reply! Byebye,
I've not had a chance to work much with Exchange Server but if memory serves it doesn't do much more than a standard IMAP server in the sense of mailboxes and shared folders. It provides support for calendaring and address books (with client support for LDAP, another of the things on my list of things to learn.) So beyond that it depends on what they want to do. Good Luck!
-- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm@math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm@rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS -- Jack Ungerleider The Ungerleider Group Creative Solutions for Cooperative Computing jack@jacku.com www.jacku.com
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