Is this news? Anyway, there's a long article describing Zope by Tom Riedl in June's Linux Magazin (in German). cheers Alex ########################################## This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender on the number printed above, via the Dresdner Kleinwort Benson switchboard on +44 171 623 8000 or via e-mail return. Internet communications are not secure unless protected using strong cryptography. This email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but Dresdner Kleinwort Benson makes no warranty as to accuracy or completeness. In particular Dresdner Kleinwort Benson does not accept responsibility for changes made to this email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Bank or its affiliates. They may be subject to change without notice. ##########################################
Alex.Thomas@dresdnerkb.com wrote:
Is this news? Anyway, there's a long article describing Zope by Tom Riedl in June's Linux Magazin (in German).
I put the article online yesterday. http://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgabe.1999.06/Zope/zope.html Right now Zope is fully featured on our website (take a look at the Cover too :-)) and I plan to put the redesigned website (with Zope of course :-)) online as soon as possible. Some remarks: 1. With Aquisition I could finally do what I always wanted to do! Bellissimo! Poor CGI-Developpers :-) 2. I was shocked this week when I read the message, that by updating a property of an object one gets a backup of that object too. Thinking a minute about Zope and its possibilities this was of course obvious. I just forgot it and implemented a banner-managment with "intelligent" banners which know their URL, who often they are seen and clicked. I wish I could change <!--#with banner--> <!--#call "manage_changeProperties(clicked=clicked+1)"--> <!--#call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"--> <!--#/with--> to something like <!--#with banner--> <!--#call "manage_changeProperties(clicked=clicked+1, nobackup=1)"--> <!--#call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"--> <!--#/with--> Does this give sense? Is something like this planned? 3. I do not have a clue how I can implement a search interface for the website I did? Some pointers to the docs or maybe a simple example would really be nice? 4. My Data.bbb - file will be around 300 MB. Is this a problem? I remember an email which mentions that Zope has no problem with big datasets, but how big was that number? 5. Developping with Zope is just fun, although my learning curve was quite steep :-) Tom -- Tom Schwaller Linux Magazin http://www.linux-magazin.de/
At 03:36 20/05/99 , Tom Schwaller wrote:
Alex.Thomas@dresdnerkb.com wrote:
Is this news? Anyway, there's a long article describing Zope by Tom
Riedl in
June's Linux Magazin (in German).
I put the article online yesterday.
I added this link to the Open Directory Project Zope/Articles category: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Application/Zope/Article... -- Martijn Pieters, Web Developer | Antraciet http://www.antraciet.nl | Tel: +31-35-6254545 Fax: +31-35-6254555 | mailto:mj@antraciet.nl http://www.antraciet.nl/~mj | PGP: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA8A32149 ------------------------------------------
Just for fun I used babelfish to translate the beginning of Tom Riedl's German ZOPE article. I one of those poor "mono-lingual" Irish-Americans who needs help!!! http://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgabe.1999.06/Zope/zope.html The translation is free and automatic: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? Here is the unedited translation: (I hope Tom doesn't mind my taking the liberty to machine-translate his work!) *--------------begin Zope: (Z)open Zource Zoftware by Tom Riedl If nowadays a software opens itself into the large, far world of the Webs, then it must be able to offer more already some, in order to be noticeable at all still, the, if it concerns a further application of servers of application of Web. Zope is such a candidate. Zope, which is for " Z Object Publishing Environment ", brings already at first sight complete " Buzzword Compliance " with: Simplified expressed (: -) it is more object-oriented, more data base-based, persistence offering, Python based, script-expandable, open-cSource-certified, rollable, versionable Web application server, which can run both alone and and persistente GCI APPLICATION under a Apache Webserver. In Ernst: Outward Zope presents itself as Web server (or GCI APPLICATION). A client (Browser) sends an inquiry there, and Zope answers to it with an appropriate HTML output. On the inside against it only the differences point themselves e.g. to a " classical " structure of a Webs with files in directories plus/minus a few GCI SKRIPTEN. Since Zope's are abilities in the good one as extensive in the bad one rather and complex, I put in the following more weight on a broad than a deep representation (blows that, that me now with one " sees one " responds!). Zope operates not (directly) with HTML files, but with hierarchies of objects, thus objects, which can contain other objects and methods. The URLs transferred by the client is interpreted in the long run as paths by objects, their children and to their methods. An example: With HTTP://my.zope.server/Klinik/Kinderstation/Patient/mickey_mouse/entlassen Zope in the hospital (an object with various methods and Sub objects) in the child station would dismiss the patient mickey_mouse. It is times not clear only from where this method comes: It could be available e.g. as " standard procedure " of the hospital in the hospital object, or be regulated with the patients: Zope looks dynamically for this in the object hierarchy for a suitable method dismisses. This dynamic transmission was called by the Zope creators Akuisition or acquisition. The dismissal method can arrange then different things and produce to good the latter a suitable message, which can be finally passed on at the clients for representation, e.g. something like.... {More not translated} *-------------end translation As ZOPE continues to gain a world wide presence, This translator can be used to translate ZDP - Zope Documentation to other languages. (Not perfect, but understandable...) -Bob OConnor bob@rocnet.com
At 12:21 20/05/99 , Robert O'Connor wrote:
Just for fun I used babelfish to translate the beginning of Tom Riedl's German ZOPE article. I one of those poor "mono-lingual" Irish-Americans who needs help!!!
http://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgabe.1999.06/Zope/zope.html
The translation is free and automatic: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate?
Try this one as well: http://www.tranexp.com/InterTran.cgi I used both to augment my spotty knowledge of German to translate the introduction paragraph for inclusion of a link to the article in the Open Directory Project (http://www.dmoz.org). -- Martijn Pieters, Web Developer | Antraciet http://www.antraciet.nl | Tel: +31-35-6254545 Fax: +31-35-6254555 | mailto:mj@antraciet.nl http://www.antraciet.nl/~mj | PGP: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA8A32149 ------------------------------------------
At 12:21 20/05/99 , Robert O'Connor wrote: Just for fun I used babelfish to translate the beginning of Tom Riedl's German ZOPE article. I one of those poor "mono-lingual" Irish-Americans who needs help!!!
(I hope Tom doesn't mind my taking the liberty to machine-translate his work!)
Hi there! Definitely not minding! Honestly, no offence meant (since I don't want to get this year's Most Arrogant Chauvinistic Pig Award ;-), but that automated translation caught me in mid-air; so, slowly recovering from a ROTFL-fit I learned to *LOVE* babelfish for, I'm going to ask Linux-Magazin whether I may publish a translated version... Yours, tom (being multilingual on a 'I dont speak XXX' basis) -- MfG: Thomas Riedl =========================================================================== triedl@linuxland.de, (+49 89) 99 34 12 - 11, http://www.linuxland.de Stefan-George-Ring 24, 81929 München
On Wed, 19 May 1999, Tom Schwaller wrote:
Alex.Thomas@dresdnerkb.com wrote:
Is this news? Anyway, there's a long article describing Zope by Tom Riedl in June's Linux Magazin (in German).
I put the article online yesterday.
http://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgabe.1999.06/Zope/zope.html
Right now Zope is fully featured on our website (take a look at the Cover too :-)) and I plan to put the redesigned website (with Zope of course :-)) online as soon as possible.
Some remarks:
1. With Aquisition I could finally do what I always wanted to do! Bellissimo! Poor CGI-Developpers :-)
2. I was shocked this week when I read the message, that by updating a property of an object one gets a backup of that object too. Thinking a minute about Zope and its possibilities this was of course obvious. I just forgot it and implemented a banner-managment with "intelligent" banners which know their URL, who often they are seen and clicked. I wish I could change
<!--#with banner--> <!--#call "manage_changeProperties(clicked=clicked+1)"--> <!--#call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"--> <!--#/with-->
If you look through the list for the Counter product I sent awhile back, I believe it has a technique for avoiding excessive growth of the database by caching changes, and writing the changes to permanent storage every X increments. Something like that might work here. Sorry, but I don't recall exactly how I did it.
to something like
<!--#with banner--> <!--#call "manage_changeProperties(clicked=clicked+1, nobackup=1)"--> <!--#call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"--> <!--#/with-->
Does this give sense? Is something like this planned?
3. I do not have a clue how I can implement a search interface for the website I did? Some pointers to the docs or maybe a simple example would really be nice?
4. My Data.bbb - file will be around 300 MB. Is this a problem? I remember an email which mentions that Zope has no problem with big datasets, but how big was that number?
5. Developping with Zope is just fun, although my learning curve was quite steep :-)
Tom
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