Howdy... In a nutshell: I want to get some attribute of an object without it using acquisition - ie the attribute is returned if and only if the object has it _itself_. I'm trying to use _.getattr() but this is acquiring - I need something which doesn't acquire. In more detail: Folder "gimbo" contains two folders, "notes" and "queries". Queries has subdirectories, some of which have a "notes" property (a string). In "queries", I want to use something like: <dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')"> <dtml-let f = sequence-item> <dtml-try> <dtml-var expr="_.getattr(f, 'notes')"> <dtml-except>   </dtml-try> </dtml-try> </dtml-in> to display the notes if they're present, and display a blank space if they're not. Unfortunately, for those folders which _don't_ have a notes property, the _.getattr() call in the above is picking up the "notes" folder from higher in the hierarchy - not what I want. I realise that by carefully choosing names I can avoid this, but I'd rather avoid that burden if possible. So, is there a way of doing this which doesn't attempt to acquire? Cheers, -Andy -- Andy Gimblett - Programmer - Frontier Internet Services Limited Tel: 029 20 820 044 Fax: 029 20 820 035 http://www.frontier.net.uk/ Statements made are at all times subject to Frontier's Terms and Conditions of Business, which are available upon request.