i would like to create a new instance of a ZNavigator product folder in the case of "infobar" is an existing instance from ZNavigator i can use the following and it works fine <dtml-with infobar> <dtml-call "manage_addNavigator(id='infobar',title=REQUEST.id,navlink=REQUEST.id,navico n=navicon,REQUEST=REQUEST)"> </dtml-with> but i would like to create a new instance of ZNavigator at a different place. "/seiten/" if i try i get the following error code Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: manage_addNavigator Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Traversable) File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: MenuWizardForm) File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: MenuWizardForm) File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 172, in __call__ (Object: MenuWizardForm) File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 528, in __call__ (Object: MenuWizardForm) File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_With.py, line 146, in render (Object: seiten) File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 337, in eval (Object: seiten.manage_addNavigator(id='infobar',title=REQUEST.id,navlink=REQUEST.id, navicon=navicon,REQUEST=REQUEST)) (Info: seiten) File <string>, line 0, in ? File /usr/local/lib/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 129, in careful_getattr AttributeError: (see above) any suggestions ??? Ralf Kraemer