Hi, I'm playing with the calendar tag, based on code from the Zopista at zopezen (on zope 2.3.2), and have found its really slow to render in Netscape (v 4.7), whereas IE5 zips through it. I've tried putting the dtml- method in a RAM cache (no change) - is it the brower struggling to render a complex table? Any tips from speed freak zope heads? Or should I not use a calendar with NS, and can I use HTTP_USER_AGENT to filter it out? Cheers, Rob
Nested table rendering in netscape is a royal pain in the behind. More than two, possibly three nested level and it gets ssslllooowww. You have to live with int unfortunately. Mozillas new rnedering engine is said to be faster, but I havn't tested it. IE is smartera about the way it renders _and draws_ tables and also a bit faster IIRC. /dario ----- Original Message ----- From: <rob.sheppard@btinternet.com> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: [Zope] Slow calendar rendering in Netscape
Hi,
I'm playing with the calendar tag, based on code from the Zopista at zopezen (on zope 2.3.2), and have found its really slow to render in Netscape (v 4.7), whereas IE5 zips through it. I've tried putting the dtml- method in a RAM cache (no change) - is it the brower struggling to render a complex table?
Any tips from speed freak zope heads?
Or should I not use a calendar with NS, and can I use HTTP_USER_AGENT to filter it out?
Cheers, Rob
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Netscape 6.01 does render calendars faster but is still far from being as useful as 4.7X (due to the plug-in issues). And as for IE being faster in that aspect you are correct but I have found that IE has allowed designing web sites to become sloppy due to its slack rendering rules and standards application. After all MS had to get Frontpage to work somehow! heheheh SR At 12:28 PM 6/5/2001 +0200, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
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Nested table rendering in netscape is a royal pain in the behind.
More than two, possibly three nested level and it gets ssslllooowww.
You have to live with int unfortunately. Mozillas new rnedering engine is said to be faster, but I havn't tested it.
IE is smartera about the way it renders _and draws_ tables and also a bit faster IIRC. /dario
----- Original Message ----- From: <rob.sheppard@btinternet.com> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: [Zope] Slow calendar rendering in Netscape
Hi,
I'm playing with the calendar tag, based on code from the Zopista at zopezen (on zope 2.3.2), and have found its really slow to render in Netscape (v 4.7), whereas IE5 zips through it. I've tried putting the dtml- method in a RAM cache (no change) - is it the brower struggling to render a complex table?
Any tips from speed freak zope heads?
Or should I not use a calendar with NS, and can I use HTTP_USER_AGENT to filter it out?
Cheers, Rob
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherwood Robinson" <srobinson@fredericksburg.com> Subject: Re: [Zope] Slow calendar rendering in Netscape
Netscape 6.01 does render calendars faster but is still far from being as useful as 4.7X (due to the plug-in issues). And as for IE being faster in that aspect you are correct but I have found that IE has allowed designing web sites to become sloppy due to its slack rendering rules and standards application. After all MS had to get Frontpage to work somehow! heheheh
hehe, I didn't say it was _better_, I said it was _a bit_ faster... However, IIRC, IE is a bit faster in displaying the table because it doesn't wait for the table to finish rendering before displaying it, while NS renders the whole table before displaying it, thus giving the user the *perception* of being faster... hmm, come to think of it, it's like "streaming tables" :-))))))) /dario
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However, IIRC, IE is a bit faster in displaying the table because it doesn't wait for the table to finish rendering before displaying it, while NS renders the whole table before displaying it
Gecko (Mozilla, Netscape6) renders a table while loading it. Mozilla even reformats table on screen after downloading more data. Oleg. ---- Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ phd@phd.pp.ru Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.
It is just the different ways that each browser Renders the page/tables. NS wont render till it is complete. IE renders as it gets information. Thus making it render faster in IE. Netscape 6.x handles this much better than 4.7X It does still seem to load faster in IE knowing this but I wouldn't stop using it in Netscape. SR At , rob.sheppard@btinternet.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm playing with the calendar tag, based on code from the Zopista at zopezen (on zope 2.3.2), and have found its really slow to render in Netscape (v 4.7), whereas IE5 zips through it. I've tried putting the dtml- method in a RAM cache (no change) - is it the brower struggling to render a complex table?
Any tips from speed freak zope heads?
Or should I not use a calendar with NS, and can I use HTTP_USER_AGENT to filter it out?
Cheers, Rob
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