RE: [Zope] Split the list again?
I never figured this on out. There's nothing harmful about Reply-To. The document you refer to tries to build an argument out of inserted Reply-Tos modifying the standard behaviour of the "Reply" operation, which is complete bs. Non-fiddling with Reply-To is, imho, more harmful than not. How? Well, for every follow-up I get, I also get one explicitly directed to my email address, because people hit "Reply to all" and instead of having their follow-up sent to just "zope@zope.org", they send it to "alex@mop.no; zope@zope.org". Needless to say, for every follow-up I get _two_ emails. To avoid having my inbox cluttered with redundant mail, I filter everything into my Zope-list folders, but I still get two emails for every follow-up. Madness! Common sense would tell you that 99% of all replies go to the list -- that's the whole point. Why cater to the 1% where the followup is sent privately? I'm on a lot of mailing lists, and Zope's are the only ones I've come across that has not implemented the courtesy Reply-To fix. It's incredibly, mindbendingly annoying. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_
-----Original Message----- From: anthony@nextTelecom.com [mailto:anthony@nextTelecom.com]On Behalf Of Anthony Baxter Sent: 16. juni 1999 16:12 To: Phillip Beazley Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Split the list again?
Phillip Beazley wrote Oh, and how about having the reply-to address of posts that of the mailing list unless specified by the user?
noooooooo. Bad, bad, bad, naughty. Don't fiddle the reply-to on mailing lists. I'm on some lists that do, some that don't - and the ones that do are _far_ more irritating to work with.
see also: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Anthony
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At 05:14 PM 6/16/1999 +0200, you wrote:
Non-fiddling with Reply-To is, imho, more harmful than not. How? Well, for every follow-up I get, I also get one explicitly directed to my email address, because people hit "Reply to all" and instead of having their follow-up sent to just "zope@zope.org", they send it to "alex@mop.no; zope@zope.org". Needless to say, for every follow-up I get _two_ emails. To avoid having my inbox cluttered with redundant mail, I filter everything into my Zope-list folders, but I still get two emails for every follow-up. Madness! Common sense would tell you that 99% of all replies go to the list -- that's the whole point. Why cater to the 1% where the followup is sent privately?
Exactly. I get two, too. Only this list, because it's the only one I've seen setup this way. Thank you!
I'm on a lot of mailing lists, and Zope's are the only ones I've come across that has not implemented the courtesy Reply-To fix. It's incredibly, mindbendingly annoying.
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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Alexander Staubo wrote:
Non-fiddling with Reply-To is, imho, more harmful than not. How? Well, for every follow-up I get, I also get one explicitly directed to my email address, because people hit "Reply to all" and instead of having their follow-up sent to just "zope@zope.org", they send it to "alex@mop.no; zope@zope.org". Needless to say, for every follow-up I get _two_ emails.
I have to say I find that very convenient. Often I'm on lists that take ten to thirty MINUTES (an ETERNITY!) to deliver a message to me via the list. The courtesy copy gets to me in a second or two, which is really handy when I have a problem stopping further progress. As a test, I haven't CC'd you, and I replied immediately upon receiving you email. Now you can let me know how slow the Zope lists are. -- --- | Mike Pelletier | Paid to be a geek! /opeware! | mike@zopeware.com | You'd have to hire KryoTech --- | ICQ:7127228 | To get much cooler. http://www.zopeware.com | (519)725-7710 | -Haiku by Retu Pmoc
I tend to get the posts within about 30 seconds of them being sent, I must just be lucky. Phil phil@philh.org ----- Original Message ----- <snip>
I have to say I find that very convenient. Often I'm on lists that
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ten to thirty MINUTES (an ETERNITY!) to deliver a message to me via the list. The courtesy copy gets to me in a second or two, which is really handy when I have a problem stopping further progress. As a test, I haven't CC'd you, and I replied immediately upon receiving you email. Now you can let me know how slow the Zope lists are.
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 05:14:51PM +0200, Alexander Staubo wrote:
I'm on a lot of mailing lists, and Zope's are the only ones I've come across that has not implemented the courtesy Reply-To fix. It's incredibly, mindbendingly annoying.
You're right, but there are some mailers (like Mutt :) which can automatically handle such mailing lists. -Petru
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