I've also had success with ExUserFolder, hooking zope up to the database behind my ikonBoard (had to write my own plugin for that, but it was relatively painless once I started). ---------- Keith J. Farmer kfarmer@thuban.org http://www.thuban.org -----Original Message----- From: Zachery Bir [mailto:zbir@urbanape.com] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:44 Go with A). Use LoginManager. There are several HOWTOs on zope.org for using it with an SQL user source. Use jok's - I found it to be more straightforward.