Is FireFox usable as a WEBDAV client? If so, can someone suggest what I should read to get it working? -- John
John Poltorak wrote:
Is FireFox usable as a WEBDAV client?
If so, can someone suggest what I should read to get it working?
Zope will work as a webdav server for any proper standard compliant client. I don't know whether Mozilla Firefox supports webdav--ask the Firefox community. However, Mozilla Composer should be capable of webdav’ing. /Anton Stonor
Anton Stonor wrote:
John Poltorak wrote:
Is FireFox usable as a WEBDAV client?
If so, can someone suggest what I should read to get it working?
In the Twingle project there is also a module for WebDAV in JavaScript http://twingle.mozdev.org/ -- Johan Carlsson Tel: + 46 8 31 24 94 Colliberty Mob: + 46 70 558 25 24 Torsgatan 72 Email: johanc@easypublisher.com SE-113 37 STOCKHOLM Skype: colliberty
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:48:10PM +0100, Anton Stonor wrote:
John Poltorak wrote:
Is FireFox usable as a WEBDAV client?
If so, can someone suggest what I should read to get it working?
Zope will work as a webdav server for any proper standard compliant client.
I don't know whether Mozilla Firefox supports webdav--ask the Firefox community.
However, Mozilla Composer should be capable of webdavÂ’ing.
Is there a HowTo on webdaving? I don't know what is involved in setting it up? Something with screenshots would be nice..
/Anton Stonor
-- John
John Poltorak wrote:
Is there a HowTo on webdaving? I don't know what is involved in setting it up?
On the Zope side others on this list have told you how to set up webdav. On the client side get support from the company or community behind the client. Anton
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:19:33PM +0100, Anton Stonor wrote:
John Poltorak wrote:
Is there a HowTo on webdaving? I don't know what is involved in setting it up?
On the Zope side others on this list have told you how to set up webdav.
Yes, I understand Zope needs to start up with '-W 8088' and I can connect to that with Firefox, but have no idea what to expect when I do connect. A browser screenshot would be nice...
On the client side get support from the company or community behind the client.
I don't know anyone who has ever used or even heard of WEBDAV on OS/2.
Anton
-- John
John Poltorak wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:19:33PM +0100, Anton Stonor wrote:
John Poltorak wrote:
Is there a HowTo on webdaving? I don't know what is involved in setting it up?
On the Zope side others on this list have told you how to set up webdav.
Yes, I understand Zope needs to start up with '-W 8088' and I can connect to that with Firefox, but have no idea what to expect when I do connect.
A browser screenshot would be nice...
WebDAV is a protocol like FTP or HTTP so there isn't really a UI to access from the server. The UI is solely provided by the client. Today there is really a shortage in good WebDAV clients (imho). The one I use frequently with Zope (from Win32 platform) is WebDAV, it's a commercial product. It let's me mount WebDAV server in the Windows Explorer just like they where regulare network volyms. Other clients could look like FTP clients. That's what you could expect from a WebDAV client. -- Johan Carlsson Tel: + 46 8 31 24 94 Colliberty Mob: + 46 70 558 25 24 Torsgatan 72 Email: johanc@easypublisher.com SE-113 37 STOCKHOLM Skype: colliberty
--On 14 March 2004 09:37 +0100 Johan Carlsson <johanc@easypublisher.com> wrote:
WebDAV is a protocol like FTP or HTTP so there isn't really a UI to access from the server. The UI is solely provided by the client.
Today there is really a shortage in good WebDAV clients (imho). The one I use frequently with Zope (from Win32 platform) is WebDAV, it's a commercial product.
Johan means WebDrive ;-) <http://www.webdrive.com/> In an earlier thread on WebDav I suggested that V6.01 of WebDrive had a problem with Zope - I don't now think it does - I think the problems I'm seeing are due to a change in PUT_factory in our local implementation. A screenshot was requested. Here's one though it's an ftp rather that http connection: <http://www.webdrive.com/images/screens/SiteManagerSmall.gif> And this is how things look once you're mounted your ftp/webdav server volume: <http://www.webdrive.com/images/mapdesktop.gif> Take the 20-day free trial. This is the future and it is working ..... Paul
It let's me mount WebDAV server in the Windows Explorer just like they where regulare network volyms. Other clients could look like FTP clients.
That's what you could expect from a WebDAV client.
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Johan Carlsson wrote:
The one I use frequently with Zope (from Win32 platform) is WebDAV, it's a commercial product.
You sure you don't mean WebDrive? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
On Saturday, March 13, 2004, at 06:36 PM, John Poltorak wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:19:33PM +0100, Anton Stonor wrote:
John Poltorak wrote:
Is there a HowTo on webdaving? I don't know what is involved in setting it up?
On the Zope side others on this list have told you how to set up webdav.
Yes, I understand Zope needs to start up with '-W 8088' and I can connect to that with Firefox, but have no idea what to expect when I do connect.
that's the webdave "source port" - regular webdav is port how.
A browser screenshot would be nice...
On the client side get support from the company or community behind the client.
I don't know anyone who has ever used or even heard of WEBDAV on OS/2.
check www.webdav.org webdav is built into windows2000 (with enough service packs!) and XP, and mac osx.
Anton
-- John
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Marc Lindahl wrote:
webdav is built into windows2000 (with enough service packs!) and XP,
No it's not! That's WebFolders, M$'s slightly different and highly broken version... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 04:09 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
Marc Lindahl wrote:
webdav is built into windows2000 (with enough service packs!) and XP,
No it's not! That's WebFolders, M$'s slightly different and highly broken version...
Oh.... well it seems to work OK for simple file uploads and stuff....
Chris
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 10:18:45AM -0500, Marc Lindahl wrote:
On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 04:09 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
Marc Lindahl wrote:
webdav is built into windows2000 (with enough service packs!) and XP,
No it's not! That's WebFolders, M$'s slightly different and highly broken version...
Oh.... well it seems to work OK for simple file uploads and stuff....
I'm still trying to work out how WEBDAV differs from an FTP filesystem driver...
Chris
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-- John
--On 17 March 2004 15:33 +0000 John Poltorak <jp@warpix.org> wrote:
I'm still trying to work out how WEBDAV differs from an FTP filesystem driver...
Here's two differences: 1. File locking (that's the DA bit - Distributed Authoring - you don't stomp on other people's stuff). 2. Easily secured over SSL (no passwords in the clear) 3. Increasingly ftp is blocked at firewalls Others are likely to extend this list .... Paul -- The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/
Paul Browning wrote:
--On 17 March 2004 15:33 +0000 John Poltorak <jp@warpix.org> wrote:
I'm still trying to work out how WEBDAV differs from an FTP filesystem driver...
Here's two differences:
1. File locking (that's the DA bit - Distributed Authoring - you don't stomp on other people's stuff).
2. Easily secured over SSL (no passwords in the clear)
3. Increasingly ftp is blocked at firewalls
Others are likely to extend this list ....
WebDAV is an extension to the HTTP protocol, and thus is REQUEST/RESPONSE based unlike FTP. (This can be more efficientalso allows it to be sneaky wrt firewalls.) A regular HTTP resource also maps to a WebDAV resource more directly than FTP. There's more, but you're right that they basically provide the same sort of service. Note that Zope treats them similarly. See also: http://webdav.org/other/faq.html --jcc -- "My point and period will be throughly wrought, Or well or ill, as this day's battle's fought."
Its been a while since I first tried using WebDAV but I tried it with Dreamweaver and MS's WEB Folder version and I can't remember if one or both did this. I could download and upload the files fine except that downloading would download the rendered source and not the true source. So in that case since we use a tag like <dtml-var topbanner> on all our pages then editing the rendered source would eliminate that and all dtml tags which would make that page not update when the topbanner object gets changed. It seems that I recall seeing some discussion somewhere that type of incident may have been client specific and some download rendered source and some true source. But being http based and "REQUEST/RESPONSE" I can see why this might happen. This was with : Zope Version (Zope 2.6.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.3, linux2) Python Version 2.1.3 (#1, Sep 19 2002, 13:15:46) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)] System Platform linux2 Thomas On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:01:06 -0600, J. Cameron Cooper <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com> wrote:
Paul Browning wrote:
--On 17 March 2004 15:33 +0000 John Poltorak <jp@warpix.org> wrote:
I'm still trying to work out how WEBDAV differs from an FTP filesystem driver...
Here's two differences:
1. File locking (that's the DA bit - Distributed Authoring - you don't stomp on other people's stuff).
2. Easily secured over SSL (no passwords in the clear)
3. Increasingly ftp is blocked at firewalls
Others are likely to extend this list ....
WebDAV is an extension to the HTTP protocol, and thus is REQUEST/RESPONSE based unlike FTP. (This can be more efficientalso allows it to be sneaky wrt firewalls.)
A regular HTTP resource also maps to a WebDAV resource more directly than FTP.
There's more, but you're right that they basically provide the same sort of service. Note that Zope treats them similarly.
See also:
http://webdav.org/other/faq.html
--jcc
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Thomas Bennett wrote:
Dreamweaver and MS's WEB Folder version and I can't remember if one or both did this. I could download and upload the files fine except that downloading would download the rendered source and not the true source.
You should have been using the source port then ;-) The normal http port serves rendered content (for obvious reasons ;-), so you need to start up zope with the -W to specify a "source port" and then point your webdav client at that... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk
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