Hi all, Here is it, my new web page, designed to receive a certificate.... I must admit, I learned more when I met Zope then that whole year.... every tuesday evening and saturday morning.... So, have a look at it ! Please. I was thinking of adding a guestbook, but I think that would give me too much trouble (people telling bad things etc) + I don't like these commercial banners.... I would really appreciate if you let me know what you think of it.... this is my first 'big' site, with my first javascripts.... What can you find in the site? 1. An short explenation of a new project I'm working on. 2. A short introduction to Zope (summary of ZBook) 3. Some examples... yes....! That's about it.... Please, have a look! Thanks! http://www.master.cit.be/c8/default.html If you've problems, let me know then I try to solve them... PS. You really need Netscape 4 or above or IE 5.0 for this!!!!(IE.4 gives a problem with frames and layers :-( and that is just my biggest personal achievement, ie. the submenus...) Known problem (at least with Netscape 4.07) with XWindows : the background disappears and images become ugly! (seems Linux is working with another format of images)
Tom Deprez wrote:
Hi all,
Here is it, my new web page, designed to receive a certificate....
Tom, that's a really, really wonderful site. Can we link to it from zope.org?
I must admit, I learned more when I met Zope then that whole year.... every tuesday evening and saturday morning....
So, have a look at it ! Please. I was thinking of adding a guestbook, but I think that would give me too much trouble (people telling bad things etc) + I don't like these commercial banners....
I would really appreciate if you let me know what you think of it.... this is my first 'big' site, with my first javascripts....
Everything worked fine on the two browsers I used. Made me really curious about how you did it :^) Thanks _very_ much Tom! --Paul
Hi Paul,
Tom, that's a really, really wonderful site. Can we link to it from zope.org?
Thanks for the compliments, this makes my day :-). Sure! It would be great if you linked it from Zope.org.
Everything worked fine on the two browsers I used. Made me really curious about how you did it :^)
Well, it made me realise of the still big differences between two browsers and their versions etc... It has cost a lot of sweat, swears, ... but finally it turned out in a good way. At least on the computers I tested it, it works... haven't tried it on a Mac, IRIX,... nor on all different browsers.... Anybody did try it out on these systems (or others) and browser? Does it looks bad? I do hope not.
Thanks _very_ much Tom!
Thank you and your colleagues for creating and maintaining Zope and for making it Open Source ....! c.u. Tom.
Tom Deprez wrote:
Everything worked fine on the two browsers I used. Made me really curious about how you did it :^)
Well, it made me realise of the still big differences between two browsers and their versions etc... It has cost a lot of sweat, swears, ... but finally it turned out in a good way.
There are estimates that a [put in large % figure here]% of the time when doing web designing goes into fiddling around browser incompatibilities. The Mozilla pre-alphas look good in their implementation of web standards, though, so change is hopefully coming. Though we'll have to deal with the older browsers just about forever, I guess.. Has anyone thought about how Zope can use the XUL (cross platform user interface thing in XML, as far as I understand it) in Mozilla? Some pretty nice applications should be possible, though I know next to nothing about XUL yet. :) Regards, Martijn
At 02:33 PM 6/8/99 +0200, Martijn Faassen rightfully pointed out:
There are estimates that a [put in large % figure here]% of the time when doing web designing goes into fiddling around browser incompatibilities. The Mozilla pre-alphas look good in their implementation of web standards, though, so change is hopefully coming. Though we'll have to deal with the older browsers just about forever, I guess..
One would hope that at least basic CSS could help put a stop to this. I'm about to embark on a gratis project for a transit company. Of course they're a non profit, don't have two pennies to rub together, and need to be 100% readable/usable by those with visual limitations. So if you're using Lynx, doing JavaScript and what have you is not an option but CSS and server-side logic (where Zope seems to excel) is clearly the way to go. My personal feeling is that you can strike a good balance between usability, aesthetics, and to be as lazy as possible by putting most of your logic server-side. I guess good are Salon (www.salon.com) and news.com -- both are mostly text-based and are even pretty usable in Lynx! Tom's site is a rarity -- not only does it do bunches of whizzy client side things, it's got a lot of great content. I'm just tucking in to Alan Cooper's "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" (http://www.cooper.com/design.html) and his take on Web sites that look good but have no content is "painted corpses". :-) Highly recommended reading.
At 14:33 8-6-99 , Martijn Faassen wrote:
There are estimates that a [put in large % figure here]% of the time when doing web designing goes into fiddling around browser incompatibilities. The Mozilla pre-alphas look good in their implementation of web standards, though, so change is hopefully coming. Though we'll have to deal with the older browsers just about forever, I guess..
Don't start me on this one.... have a look at http://www.benckiser.com/. Took me ages to get it working on both Navigator and Explorer... Explorer is easy, Netscape still manages to be quirky about it, and even drops images, never to return them untill you do a full reload!. -- Martijn Pieters, Web Developer | Antraciet http://www.antraciet.nl | Tel: +31-35-7502100 Fax: +31-35-7502111 | mailto:mj@antraciet.nl http://www.antraciet.nl/~mj | PGP: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA8A32149 ------------------------------------------
Tom Deprez wrote:
Well, it made me realise of the still big differences between two browsers and their versions etc... It has cost a lot of sweat, swears, ... but finally it turned out in a good way.
http://www.netmechanic.com/compat_check.htm will do compatibility checking for tags but just Netscape and IE, and it's unclear whether they take into account quirks under different operating systems. Also not clear that visual effects like your viewers experienced would be detected. Great site, excellent effects. Now I see why you have been writing so vigorously! Craig -- Craig Allen - Managing Partner - Mutual Alchemy Information Architecture - http://alchemy.nu
Tom, that's a really, really wonderful site. Can we link to it from zope.org?
Thanks for the compliments, this makes my day :-). Sure! It would be great if you linked it from Zope.org.
I added your site to dmoz.org as well, Tom: http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Application/Zope/ -- Martijn Pieters, Web Developer | Antraciet http://www.antraciet.nl | Tel: +31-35-7502100 Fax: +31-35-7502111 | mailto:mj@antraciet.nl http://www.antraciet.nl/~mj | PGP: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA8A32149 ------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Paul Everitt wrote:
Tom Deprez wrote:
Hi all,
Here is it, my new web page, designed to receive a certificate....
Tom, that's a really, really wonderful site. Can we link to it from zope.org?
Yes I really liked it. Fancy javascript stuff. Do you mind if I steal some ;-) Pavlos
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