Paul, Is it possible that you are looking at http://yoursiteroot.com/manage_main or http://yoursiteroot.com/manage ? manage_main will not show the left frame. Kevin Well, I moved Data.fs from the working server to the new server (after shutting Zope down on both of course) and the problem STILL persists!!!! This is really frustrating .. I mean, it worked fine for 3 days then suddenly doesn't work .. no errors in logs, what the ???? ANynody have any last suggestions before I resort to re-installing everything fresh from source??? Thanks, Paul