RE: [Zope] Project FTP Site
Yes, I've tinkered with CMF, shows much promise. I had trouble though, finding documentation to help me set it up. Specifically, I couldn't figure out how to create a consistent home page for the site that all users see.
From there they can go to their own sites. And in this case, Even the sites for each project would look very similar, but with different content. They would not be customizable by the visitors.What is the best source for docs?
-mjm -----Original Message----- From: Ausum [mailto:augusto@artlover.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:11 PM To: zope@zope.org; montagne@BOORA.com Subject: Re: [Zope] Project FTP Site You have in hands a nice opportunity to start using CMF, like it is right now, out of the box. CMF is a portal framework that allows their users to upload every content they want to a folder of their own, and publish what they want; and by having the Autocad drawings exposed through http and not ftp, your users will have the chance to review them online, using the browser plugin. All the dwgs (as any other content type) will have metadata to help their finding, and also all of them will be discussable, if you want it, and the discussion items will be searchable as well. (as any picture, document, news, etc, is) Doesn't it sound good enough? :) There's an issue if you don't want to use the default login manager/users base. But that's something you'll work out with the help of the list. Ausum "Montagne, Michael" wrote:
Here is my problem: I need to create a project site for an archiectural office. The primary purpose is File Transfer. Each firm participating in the project will
have
a folder to upload files to. They may also download from the other folders, but not upload. The files are primarily AutoCad drawings. There also needs to be the capability to send emails to groups of people notifying them of file transfers. These people are stored currently in an access database. Yes, my platform is winNT. There are other functions i promised to include but those are the main ones. Unfortunately, I don't even know where to begin. I know that zope has an FTP server so I chimed in "Of course we can do that, we'll use zope!!" I need some suggestions.
-mjm
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Hi Michael, I am working on a similar project. So we could join forces. I am doing it with CMF. However there are a lot of things yet missing or not yet very much in line for a file exchange board. One of the problem is, that peaople are used to send files as mail attachements. This is of course the easies way. Tough it has lots of drawbacks it is what people are used to, and you have to make your new service as easy to use as that. (or people will keep sending files as mail attachments) Secondly you need a kind of workgroups to which you can assign rigths common folders and the like. I did set up something for a customer of ours (they do not really use it yet) I created a transfer area to which people from inside and outside have access (afer loging in). So if you want to send somebody a file you put it to the transfer area and send the the peron to recieve it an email with a link. I you are interested I will put what we have don on our server so you can have a look at it. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Montagne, Michael" <montagne@BOORA.com> To: "'Ausum'" <augusto@artlover.com>; <zope@zope.org>; "Montagne, Michael" <montagne@BOORA.com> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Project FTP Site
Yes, I've tinkered with CMF, shows much promise. I had trouble though, finding documentation to help me set it up. Specifically, I couldn't figure out how to create a consistent home page for the site that all users see. From there they can go to their own sites. And in this case, Even the sites for each project would look very similar, but with different content. They would not be customizable by the visitors.What is the best source for docs?
-mjm
-----Original Message----- From: Ausum [mailto:augusto@artlover.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:11 PM To: zope@zope.org; montagne@BOORA.com Subject: Re: [Zope] Project FTP Site
You have in hands a nice opportunity to start using CMF, like it is right now, out of the box. CMF is a portal framework that allows their users to upload every content they want to a folder of their own, and publish what they want; and by having the Autocad drawings exposed through http and not ftp, your users will have the chance to review them online, using the browser plugin. All the dwgs (as any other content type) will have metadata to help their finding, and also all of them will be discussable, if you want it, and the discussion items will be searchable as well. (as any picture, document, news, etc, is) Doesn't it sound good enough? :)
There's an issue if you don't want to use the default login manager/users base. But that's something you'll work out with the help of the list.
Ausum
"Montagne, Michael" wrote:
Here is my problem: I need to create a project site for an archiectural office. The primary purpose is File Transfer. Each firm participating in the project will
have
a folder to upload files to. They may also download from the other folders, but not upload. The files are primarily AutoCad drawings. There also needs to be the capability to send emails to groups of people notifying them of file transfers. These people are stored currently in an access database. Yes, my platform is winNT. There are other functions i promised to include but those are the main ones. Unfortunately, I don't even know where to begin. I know that zope has an FTP server so I chimed in "Of course we can do that, we'll use zope!!" I need some suggestions.
-mjm
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Hi Robert and Michael, Me too. (Robert and me are wellknown AutoCAD folks btw.) What I have to do sooner or later (later probably), is to up and download DWG's, inspect DWG with win32com, retrieving some properties (size, bounding box, layer, ...) and create a clickable image with boxes representing the DWG. this is for our surveyors here. some students upload their DWG's in a very bad condition (random dots or blocks at 0,0. inconsistent layer standards, ...) we have about 2000 students contributing to this (building the digital city graz). the DWG inspection (in windows servers only of course) could be of interest to others as well. I on the other hand need some more time to get accustomed to the CMF way, only having grokked ZPT recently. On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Robert Rottermann wrote:
Hi Michael, I am working on a similar project. So we could join forces. I am doing it with CMF. However there are a lot of things yet missing or not yet very much in line for a file exchange board. One of the problem is, that peaople are used to send files as mail attachements. This is of course the easies way. Tough it has lots of drawbacks it is what people are used to, and you have to make your new service as easy to use as that. (or people will keep sending files as mail attachments) Secondly you need a kind of workgroups to which you can assign rigths common folders and the like.
I did set up something for a customer of ours (they do not really use it yet) I created a transfer area to which people from inside and outside have access (afer loging in). So if you want to send somebody a file you put it to the transfer area and send the the peron to recieve it an email with a link.
I you are interested I will put what we have don on our server so you can have a look at it. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Montagne, Michael" <montagne@BOORA.com> To: "'Ausum'" <augusto@artlover.com>; <zope@zope.org>; "Montagne, Michael" <montagne@BOORA.com> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: RE: [Zope] Project FTP Site
Yes, I've tinkered with CMF, shows much promise. I had trouble though, finding documentation to help me set it up. Specifically, I couldn't figure out how to create a consistent home page for the site that all users see. From there they can go to their own sites. And in this case, Even the sites for each project would look very similar, but with different content. They would not be customizable by the visitors.What is the best source for docs?
-mjm
-----Original Message----- From: Ausum [mailto:augusto@artlover.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:11 PM To: zope@zope.org; montagne@BOORA.com Subject: Re: [Zope] Project FTP Site
You have in hands a nice opportunity to start using CMF, like it is right now, out of the box. CMF is a portal framework that allows their users to upload every content they want to a folder of their own, and publish what they want; and by having the Autocad drawings exposed through http and not ftp, your users will have the chance to review them online, using the browser plugin. All the dwgs (as any other content type) will have metadata to help their finding, and also all of them will be discussable, if you want it, and the discussion items will be searchable as well. (as any picture, document, news, etc, is) Doesn't it sound good enough? :)
There's an issue if you don't want to use the default login manager/users base. But that's something you'll work out with the help of the list.
Ausum
"Montagne, Michael" wrote:
Here is my problem: I need to create a project site for an archiectural office. The primary purpose is File Transfer. Each firm participating in the project will
have
a folder to upload files to. They may also download from the other folders, but not upload. The files are primarily AutoCad drawings. There also needs to be the capability to send emails to groups of people notifying them of file transfers. These people are stored currently in an access database. Yes, my platform is winNT. There are other functions i promised to include but those are the main ones. Unfortunately, I don't even know where to begin. I know that zope has an FTP server so I chimed in "Of course we can do that, we'll use zope!!" I need some suggestions.
-mjm
-- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/acadwiki/AutoLispFaq
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 10:39:10AM +0200, Reini Urban wrote: Here is what I have done in this vein. We have about 25,000 drawings, mostly mechanical and mostly simpler than architectural drawings. We have 4 servers on which drawings are held. It was found several years ago that only the people who worked intimately with some subset of drawings could find them. Things like to find a part number you had to know what machine it was used for, and if used on more than one machine, what machine it was created for. So, several years ago, I created a backing database and client-server system that uploaded the file(s), requested a part number, and built a relation of part_number, URN. (fwtk and C on client, straight C on server, I would probably do it different these days, but it works reasonably well). Then I found the OpenDWG toolkit. I wrote a pair dwg2ps and dwg2image that can create a postscript, png, or lossless jpeg of the dwg. See opendwg.org. I can share this including source, on a cost-free basis, but opendwg is not libre software. Now, zope is used as glue. When a request for a file comes in, I fetch the file from the sever via rsync, convert it on the fly to the appropriate type, and build a html page that shows a thumb-nail, and gives options to print to any of several printers in several sizes or see various views. I also time and ISO-9000 stamp the drawing. I have a separte file-uplaod system that is pure zope. sending in email was ocurring for huge files. I complained enough to correct erroneous ways. The system gets a file name, a description, a notification list, and the file itself. It stores the file in a filesystem on the zope server, and notifies the notification list. Then each time the file is updated or deleted, the notification list is informed of this. Users can then click on the URL in the notification email to get the file. Also, users can search by keyword or description to find files and add/ermove themselves from the notification list. Only the original uploader can modify files, no advanced ACL type stuff. regards Jim Penny
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