Dieter, would you mind elaborating a bit more about how you move templates and logic out of ZODB and into the file system. I am just getting started with Zope and while I like a lot of things about how Zope works, the "through the web" development style is almost enough to make me decide Zope is not worth the pain.

Well the current best practices are shown for example in content management framework, where via filesystem directory views filesystem directories are accessible inside Zope. And zenmaster Kapil Thangavelu has packaged Filesystem directory views to work without CMF. http://www.zope.org/Members/k_vertigo/Products/FileSystemSite Other options would include using APE that can map ZODB to filesystem. -huima