This ought to be mindlessly simple: can I test for a string within another? Example: Finding "<ul>" case insensitive within dtml-myvar? Usage: On a news site, users sometimes put lists in the stories, and I need to sense them in order to cleanly break out of them when summary pages truncate the story thus: <h1>Wow New Product!</h1> <p>Our new product is great, it has:</p> <ul> <li>A titanium case</li> <li>Rugged carry-straps</li> <li>Elasticated ... [More] << code needed here to close that <ul> neatly >> ---------------------- Andy Gates, Learning and Research Technology Andy.Gates@bristol.ac.uk - ICQ#74362415 http://www.ilrt.bristol.ac.uk