I give up - I want BUY Zope consulting
Hullo, I've been fighting with Zope for two months now. I stumble with the most basic things even though I've ready EVERY single piece of documentation 100 times. I can't even do simple things like: if X=Z then Z=C call that method render this object using this format else if .. :( and to think that I've studied computer science, programmed several languages and thought I understood Zope's principles :) I stumble on syntax, I get error messages that I just can't parse, I can't find examples to do the simplest things, it took me 8 hours to implement a Finnish date/time standard (and I had to make 5 different variable calls for that)... ...the list is endless. I'm just too stupid for Zope. Anyway, I've been reading this list closely and I would still like to *use* Zope, even if I can't *develop* it myself. Therefor, I'm asking: What's the proper way to solicit offers for Zope consulting and development? I have a *very* basic site I want to build that includes: - Supporting journalist, editor, designer, anon & manager roles - Submitting small news articles with multiple categories via forms + preferably via WebDAV (journalist) - Submitting multipage articles with embedded pictures + videoclips (journalist) - Editing and approving news/articles for publication (editor) - Designing page looks, layout, skins, etc. (designer) - Managing specific folders, users, etc. (manager) - Publishing articles based on category, date and approval - Viewing published contents (anon) - Discussing articles (anon) (I have other ideas, but the above is the core I want) Now, I thought this would be simple as anything. As a matter of fact, I was able to set up Squishdot in 30 minutes, but it didn't too half the things I needed and I didn't know how to modify it. Then I tried KM|Net News and it did most things, but I stumbled on modifying again. Now, don't get me wrong. Both are (IMHO) fine tools and the authors were very helpful. The problem is I. I just can't grok Zope, it's syntax, it's documentation nor it's examples. So, any takers for such a project? I would need the above site ready last week :) and I don't roll around in cash, but I'm willing to sell myself for pennies just to get it done. Any offers or suggestions (other than those meant for general consumption) should be directed to ex@uiah.fi. I'm flexible with time table and everything. I just want this done... <sniff> :) Best regards, Samu Mielonen PS This would be an open source project. I pay for it and then it's GPL'ed once it's done and it can be used by other than just Zope Gurus. A product like this is SORELY needed out there - a digital printing press+editorial office combined if you will. I would have done it myself, but I'm too stupid :( -- "Our reflections on the order of society, as well as nature, are still dominated by the Newtonian image of massive power, exerted by sovereign agency through the operation of central force..." -Stephen Toulmin, "Cosmopolis"
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Samu Mielonen wrote:
and to think that I've studied computer science, programmed several languages and thought I understood Zope's principles :)
Samu -
From your post I gathered that you are not a Python programmer. So much of Zope relies on python that I believe if you give python a fair chance a lot of things will become clearer. Do not forget that DTML Methods etc were meant for simple things. More complex situations (like the one you descripe) are so much easier in external methods or products.
Pavlos
Pvlos Christoforou [mailto:pavlos@gaaros.msrc.sunysb.edu] wrote:
From your post I gathered that you are not a Python programmer. So much of
Well, that's true. I've read the language syntax, waded through "Learning Python" exercises and I think it's quite powerful a language. However, lacking programming experience and routines in Python, reading code is still extremely slow for me.
Do not forget that DTML Methods etc were meant for simple things. More complex situations (like the one you descripe) are so much easier in external methods or products.
I agree again, except that I think what I wanted to do is *very* simple and in all regards (as far as I know Zope), I should be able to do away with using DTML and an existing Zope product. Maybe I've been just too fearful of using the external product interface and wanted to believe I could do without it :) Best regards, Samu Mielonen PS I got several replies for my original plea, thanks to all of you. I'm now writing you each a reply to ask about prices and such. Finally I'm beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel :)
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