Hi there, maybe a newbie question... I try to dtml a cursor-object of an own python-database, swigged from a C-project (Gigabase). Actual the cursor-class has __getitem__ with throwing of IndexError. BUT: it has no real random access via index-number! its behavior is like this (a little bit simplifying): ... cursor.first() #get first position cursor[anyNumber] #if number == 0: return cursor.get() #else: cursor.next().get() #if next() has no result or number > len (cursor), or len(cursor)==0 the exception is thrown and a loop will stop ... so, a simple code-snippet cursor.first() for c in cursor: for r in c.rows: ...process something... works perfect for me! Now following DTML-code makes a unaccepted error (I've had very few accepted errors :-))... obviously the render-code access the cursor.__getitem__ method in second loop (-->c_item) again with static index-number! Bad for my stupid implementation, and not pythonlike where a loop in a loop works with an own loop-variable. I doesn't expect a continous __getitem__ with 'same' index-number, and I don't know how to workaround it on C-language-site first steps to program this page (and this is only the beginning!) the "classic" way, leads me directly to your mailinggroup and the urgent wink for help!!! I like the DTML way, and I want to use it! Anybody a tip or patch, workaround, whatever??? thanks a lot Peter (=PA=) : t = DocumentTemplate.HTML(""" <html><head><title><dtml-var expr="cursor.entityName"></title></head> <body> <dtml-if expr="cursor.__len__()"> <p>Die Suche ergab <dtml-var expr="cursor.__len__()"> Treffer! </p> <table> <tr> <dtml-in expr="cursor.rowNames"> <----- OUTER LOOP <th><dtml-var sequence-item></th> </dtml-in> <tr> <dtml-in cursor prefix="c"> <------ INNER LOOP <tr> <dtml-in expr="cursor.rowNames" prefix="r"> <td><dtml-var expr="c_item.__getattr__ (r_item)"></td> <---- c_item access my cursor again with __getitem__! instead of a loop-variable </dtml-in> </tr> </dtml-in> </table> <dtml-else> <p>Die Suche ergab keine Treffer!</p> </dtml-if> <p>Generated by Miracle</p> </body> </html> """)