Ouch! You hit close to home there. Yep. I'd pay. I spend enough time in the ZMI that I'm busy developing my own hotfixes for the interface to make it workable. Zope *badly* needs an IDE, but not too many are willing to devote the time to it (myself included). It needs to have source available (so I can do my own bugfixes). I'm really liking Zope's hotfix-ability, so that would be a niceity for the IDE. I don't mind it being based on Mozilla, but it should be a new one. Mozilla offers the ability to do HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP outta the box, so that's a start already. I could probably pull off buying it at work. If it is good, I'd probably buy a personal copy and hope there wasn't a $100/year upgrade tax. Still, it's gotta have the source (ie Debian: For the militantly free :) Conclusion: 1) Gotta be Free software. 2) Should run on every platform that zope does. 3) Should offer HTTP, HTTPS (not optional in my environment), XML-RPC (optional) and ZEO (for speed) access to the server. Even cooler, run a ZEO connection over ssh. Troy -----Original Message----- From: Paul Everitt [mailto:paul@digicool.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:23 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers Howdy folks. AndyM is running a poll over at ZopeZen: http://www.zopezen.org/ (Look at the bottom of the left margin) < spoiler warning> Before reading the rest of this message, please vote. I don't want to bias your response. And don't peek at the results before you vote! </spoiler warning> OK, on to the discussion. Are those numbers *really* accurate? I gotta admit, though I've had a soft spot in my heart for the Zope Studio thing, I'm stunned that it would be in front. Much less so *far* in front. Are these results an accurate reading of the sentiments -- that given the list of choices Andy presented, a Zope Studio is so much more popular than those choices!?! Wow. Let's try a different tack. Pretend there was a for-free Zope Studio and a for-fee Zope Studio. Let's say the difference was either like ActiveState's difference (personal use vs. professional use), or say the difference was in "Professional" capabilities. Does anyone think there would be any moderate-sized market for a for-fee version? How many of you would pay a few hundred bucks for a high-quality dev/authoring/admin environment for Zope? --Paul _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )