I have a modified userDb handling authentication on a site. When I create an object that requires authentication, and then attempt to access it, I get the docLogin page, as expected, although it always has an exception traceback at the bottom, which is vern annoying and I can't figure out how to get rid of it. However, that isn't my question. If I attempt to access an object that includes the authenticated object, a standard 'forbidden' exception gets raised, resulting in an authentication dialog, which fails to work, since the user db isn't looking for that. How can I get zope to raise the correct error, depending upon how the object is supposed to be authenticated (normal folder vs cookie auth user db). Please cc 805-689-1191@mobile.att.net with your response, so I will know to check my email. Thanks. --sam