Our apologies - the zope list was down temporarily, and i expect that at least five messages have been lost. If you sent a message but got back an "unknown mailer error", try resending your message - things should be back in operating order now. (We had to crank up the kernel file descriptor limit - we suspect that the current attention on slashdot (check it out) has spiked our visits beyond what our system has previously seen, and mailman choked on the file descriptor max at a bad time. Thank goodness it's careful about checkpointing the db...) Ken Manheimer klm@digicool.com