RE: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article
From: Ron Bickers [mailto:rbickers@logicetc.com]
Using Zope we knew that we would reach situations which may be unresolvable in the short term, and could not make significant business decisions with so many unknown factors and lack of any way to circumvent problems.
What in the world does that mean?!? Maybe it should read "We don't know how to use Zope or code in Python."
No it probably means that in enhydra they can solve any problem with brute force, just like you can in asp and php. Ie. if you have trouble understanding the security mechanism in Zope you are lost until you understand it. If you have trouble with the Enhydra security mechanism, you can allways write your own. Sometimes you can get stuck in Zope for days, without knowing how to proceed, or without knowing how to find out, because you simply got to do it the Zope way. In a commercial setting that is very dangerous when you work on a deadline. In a simpler system you have to do more yourself, but you won't be painted into a corner as easily, as you can allways do a "hack". to solve your problem. Zope is more closed in that regard. Well anyways when you know enough about Zope to make a hack, you probably also know how to do it the right way. But it's only a matter of documentation AFAIK. Regards Max M
Max Møller Rasmussen wrote:
Ie. if you have trouble understanding the security mechanism in Zope you are lost until you understand it.
Not really, you can leave it like it is (where nearly everything is anonymously accessible) and build your own ;-)
If you have trouble with the Enhydra security mechanism, you can allways write your own.
I'm sure it's not as easy as that...
Sometimes you can get stuck in Zope for days, without knowing how to proceed,
The documentation is getting a lot better...
or without knowing how to find out,
How about the mailing lists or the #zope irc channel? I bet both get you better results than any commercial support you could buy.
the Zope way. In a commercial setting that is very dangerous when you work on a deadline.
Well, if it's really crucial, you _can_ always buy support from DC...
In a simpler system you have to do more yourself, but you won't be painted into a corner as easily, as you can allways do a "hack".
if you know python, there's no reason why you can't do the same in Zope ;-)
problem. Zope is more closed in that regard. Well anyways when you know enough about Zope to make a hack, you probably also know how to do it the right way.
Sadly, that's true, but changing I think... cheers, Chris
Chris Withers wrote:
the Zope way. In a commercial setting that is very dangerous when you work on a deadline.
Well, if it's really crucial, you _can_ always buy support from DC...
This is a point that probably isn't mentioned enough here. I've been doing this kind of stuff for several years and I have never seen a better public support forum than this list. Anything you do, you need to invest in the right tools. This is a good tool ... but if your living depends on you getting Zope answers then I would suggest getting the brains at DC on your side. (This is a public service announcement and in no way was funded by Digital Creations or their subsidiaries.) <s> -- Tim Cook, President -- Free Practice Management,Inc. | http://www.FreePM.com Office: (901) 884-4126 "When the government fears the People, that is Liberty. When the People fear the Government, that is tyranny." ~~ Thomas Jefferson
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