I searched the archives and I think exception info isn't something you can get from python scripts (i.e. sys.exc_info()) Is that still the case? I tried to allow sys to be imported, as in: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2001-February/009531.html but it keeps failing (Unauthorized: exc_info) Is there another way to get generic exception info now? 2.4.x, or 2.3.x ? how about the dtml variables like error_type? all I'm trying to do is call: container.mailhost.simple_send(), and get the exception info when it fails. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/