Hi John, No, you're not alone in your search for "the way" to mesh Zope with a "traditional" (brain dead?) Web site. This is exactly where I'm at, and though I'd love to see my team on a path to total Zope-dom, it's not realistic. I'm looking at several tools that other Zopephiles have put together to see how best to leverage what Zope doesn't control, meanwhile showcasing as many flashy features that Zope can add along the way. My approach, which is very much a process of discovery, is to create a Web Forms based Work Flow Application, with URLs, user IDs, Roles and Permissions, tucked neatly in a backend RDB, with some pre-commit "buffering" in Zope's internal GadFly implementation. Here's some of my current toolkit : LocalFS from Jonathan Farr http://www.zope.org/Members/jfarr/LocalFS/LocalFS-0.1.4.tgz/ PseudoImage from K S Lee http://www.zope.org/Members/kslee/pseudo_image/ ZFormulator from Martijn Faassen http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/ZFormulator TTImage from RainDog http://www.zope.org/Members/RainDog/TTImage MySQLUserFolder from vladap http://www.zope.org/Members/vladap/mysqlUserFolder and I have high hopes for the rapid development of the Xen project from Netizen, http://bits.netizen.com.au/Xen/ and of course scouts are always on the lookout for the 1.0 release of the Zope Portal Toolkit! http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK The need to weave Zope into the status quo is bound to be the common thread across many sites, and this may be a big enough topic to have a dedicated forum. Later, Jerry S.