Fred Yankowski writes:
There are at least three categories of trouble using FrontPage with Zope, that I know of:
1) FrontPage generates files and folders whose names start with "_", thereby breaking a cardinal Zope naming rule and causing those files and folders to be inaccessible (if done via LocalFS) or outright impossible (in Zope proper/ZODB). That is Zope specific. Other HTTP servers will not mind names beginning with '_'.
2) FrontPage uses custom HTTP-based RPCs to do file upload and administration. I know next to nothing about this, but I'm pretty sure that Zope does not support this extended HTTP protocol directly. Seems like it could though. Hugh, what is that "custom HTTP-based RPCs"? Never heard about this! Why does "FrontPage" not simply use "PUT"?
3) FrontPage uses its own library of server-based features, such as for counters. Seems, it wants only work together with IIS?
Dieter
Dieter wrote:
That is Zope specific. Other HTTP servers will not mind names beginning with '_'.
Sure, but that doesn't solve the problem :-)
Hugh, what is that "custom HTTP-based RPCs"? Never heard about this! Why does "FrontPage" not simply use "PUT"?
Are you asking "why" ? When it comes to MS, who knows ? I quote from http://www.insecure.org/sploits/Microsoft.frontpage.insecurities.html
First of all, Frontpage is braindammaged (just have to set the stage).
Ok, Frontpage works like this when you want to publish files:
It tries to GET "http://www.yourdomain.com/_vti_inf.html". This file contains the version of the FP extensions and the path on the server where the extensions are located. When you use Frontpage to upload content, it will try and fetch this file, if it can, it then tries to POST to "http://www.yourdomain.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc" (that's the default).
(there are more, interesting enough for you to read).
Seems, it wants only work together with IIS?
IIS or any web server with frontpage extensions. Apache, Netscape & Oreilly, can be configured this way --but that's a *really* bad idea, patricularly for Apache. Dimitris @ Nuclear
On 6 Mar 2001, 21:03 Dieter Maurer wrote:
Hugh, what is that "custom HTTP-based RPCs"? Never heard about this! Why does "FrontPage" not simply use "PUT"?
Well, Vermeer Technologies Inc. isn't around anymore - the company has been bought by Microsoft in 1996. But why don't you ask Randy Forgaard? He's one of the founders of Vermeer. -> http://randy.forgaard.com/ ?
3) FrontPage uses its own library of server-based features, such as for counters. Seems, it wants only work together with IIS?
Well, Zope didn't yet exist in '94, so actually they didn't have much choice. :-} http://www.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1994q3/1032.html -- o ( Wolfgang.Strobl@gmd.de (+49 2241) 14-2394 /\ * GMD mbH #include _`\ `_<=== Schloss Birlinghoven, <std.disclaimer> __(_)/_(_)___.-._ 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany ________________
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