Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The affected versions go back a long time. I don't know it exactly, but people have used it successfully with Plone 2.1 (from ancient times) and I have patched Zope 2.8 instances too. On 11/11/2012 09:43 PM, Allen Schmidt wrote:
For which zope versions?
On Nov 11, 2012 2:16 PM, "johannes raggam" <raggam-nl@adm.at <mailto:raggam-nl@adm.at>> wrote:
You can just apply the Plone hotfix for Zope only installations. The Plone patches are not applied then.
Johannes
On 11/11/2012 06:32 PM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
Hi,
is a standard Zope affected by this security vulnerability or only if Plone is installed:
http://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement
The patch is replacing some basic classes therefore it looks to me that Zope itself without any Plone is vulnerable too. If so is there a Hotfix for Zope or new Zope version which fixes these bugs?
Ciao Marcus
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So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone? Rich On 12/11/12 12:02, johannes raggam wrote:
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The affected versions go back a long time. I don't know it exactly, but people have used it successfully with Plone 2.1 (from ancient times) and I have patched Zope 2.8 instances too.
On 11/11/2012 09:43 PM, Allen Schmidt wrote:
For which zope versions?
On Nov 11, 2012 2:16 PM, "johannes raggam"<raggam-nl@adm.at <mailto:raggam-nl@adm.at>> wrote:
You can just apply the Plone hotfix for Zope only installations. The Plone patches are not applied then.
Johannes
On 11/11/2012 06:32 PM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
Hi, is a standard Zope affected by this security vulnerability or only if Plone is installed:
http://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement
The patch is replacing some basic classes therefore it looks to me that Zope itself without any Plone is vulnerable too. If so is there a Hotfix for Zope or new Zope version which fixes these bugs? Ciao Marcus
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On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen <lists@localguru.de> wrote:
Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 +0000 schrieb Richard Harley:
So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?
That's still the question to me ;)
Why not try product installation and running your instance in the foreground. If anything breaks, comment out any specific inapplicable hotfix in __init__.py. A brief look at the source will tell you that it is unlikely you should need to do this, as conditional imports check what to apply. Sean
Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Sean Upton:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen <lists@localguru.de> wrote: Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 +0000 schrieb Richard Harley: > So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?
That's still the question to me ;)
Why not try product installation and running your instance in the foreground. If anything breaks, comment out any specific inapplicable hotfix in __init__.py. A brief look at the source will tell you that it is unlikely you should need to do this, as conditional imports check what to apply.
Yes, we all can go the long way of try and error and code inspection ... without knowing anything for sure in the end. Ciao!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 from the security announcement page: https://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement "This patch is compatible with all supported Plone versions (i.e. Plone 3 and Plone 4), it may work on earlier versions of Plone, but as these are unsupported they have had less testing done." so probably zope versions from 2.10.11 onwards are supported. see: http://dist.plone.org/release/3-latest/versions.cfg other versions UNSUPPORTED. if you really need to know which versions exactly are affected, you HAVE to find out yourself. either by trying it out in a test environment or by analyzing the whole commit history of affected modules in zope. people reported successful patching of Plone2.1 and i patched a Zope 2.8 instance too. but this is informal, not an official statement. On 11/13/2012 12:49 AM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Sean Upton:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen <lists@localguru.de> wrote: Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 +0000 schrieb Richard Harley:
So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?
That's still the question to me ;)
Why not try product installation and running your instance in the foreground. If anything breaks, comment out any specific inapplicable hotfix in __init__.py. A brief look at the source will tell you that it is unlikely you should need to do this, as conditional imports check what to apply.
Yes, we all can go the long way of try and error and code inspection ... without knowing anything for sure in the end.
Ciao!
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Am 13.11.2012 10:05, schrieb johannes raggam:
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from the security announcement page:
https://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement
"This patch is compatible with all supported Plone versions (i.e. Plone 3 and Plone 4), it may work on earlier versions of Plone, but as these are unsupported they have had less testing done."
so probably zope versions from 2.10.11 onwards are supported. see: http://dist.plone.org/release/3-latest/versions.cfg
other versions UNSUPPORTED. if you really need to know which versions exactly are affected, you HAVE to find out yourself. either by trying it out in a test environment or by analyzing the whole commit history of affected modules in zope.
people reported successful patching of Plone2.1 and i patched a Zope 2.8 instance too. but this is informal, not an official statement.
Hi! I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed in the latest version of Zope2? kind regards, Jürgen
On 11/13/2012 12:49 AM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Sean Upton:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen <lists@localguru.de> wrote: Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 +0000 schrieb Richard Harley:
So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?
That's still the question to me ;)
Why not try product installation and running your instance in the foreground. If anything breaks, comment out any specific inapplicable hotfix in __init__.py. A brief look at the source will tell you that it is unlikely you should need to do this, as conditional imports check what to apply.
Yes, we all can go the long way of try and error and code inspection ... without knowing anything for sure in the end.
Ciao!
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 , Jürgen Herrmann <Juergen.Herrmann@XLhost.de> wrote:
I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed in the latest version of Zope2?
There was no announcement here because those patches were prepared by Plone developers without our knowledge and announced without our knowledge. The Zope developers know as much about these patches (meaning little to nothing) as any other Zope user. jens
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 it was overseen. quoting David Glick on [Zope-CMF] from 9-11-2012: """ We should have informed you earlier. There are a lot of tasks associated with preparing a hotfix (and this one in particular covered many vulnerabilities), and it got missed. I apologize. In the future, what's the best place to report possible CMF security issues? zope-cmf Launchpad? """ On 11/13/2012 10:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 , Jürgen Herrmann <Juergen.Herrmann@XLhost.de> wrote:
I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed in the latest version of Zope2?
There was no announcement here because those patches were prepared by Plone developers without our knowledge and announced without our knowledge. The Zope developers know as much about these patches (meaning little to nothing) as any other Zope user.
jens
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We are running Zope 2.13.10. (So this may not be too helpful.) We are testing the hotfix. This is the output in our event log. 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied setHeader patch 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied allow_module patch 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied get_request_var_or_attr patch 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply gtbn 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply membership_tool 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply queryCatalog 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply uid_catalog 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply renameObjectsByPaths 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply at_download 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply safe_html 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied python_scripts patch 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied ftp patch 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied atat patch 2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply random_string 2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Hotfix installed Without knowing how to specifically break things I can't say if it is good to be running this or not. I'm sure a new Zope2 release will include these updates? -Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher N. Deckard | Lead Web Systems Developer cnd@ecn.purdue.edu | Engineering Computer Network http://eng.purdue.edu/ECN/ | Purdue University ---- zlib.decompress('x\234K\316Kq((-J)M\325KM)\005\000)"\005w') --- On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl <jens@dataflake.org> wrote:
On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 , Jürgen Herrmann <Juergen.Herrmann@XLhost.de> wrote:
I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed in the latest version of Zope2?
There was no announcement here because those patches were prepared by Plone developers without our knowledge and announced without our knowledge. The Zope developers know as much about these patches (meaning little to nothing) as any other Zope user.
jens
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