Howdy all. I'm making some comments over in Jeff Shelton's awesome Zope Newbies site and started covering some of the stuff from our PTK thinking: http://weblogs.userland.com/zopeNewbies/discuss/msgReader$314 Translation: we're working on something that is well documented and is usable. On the former, we're writing the docs from the *beginning* of the project, and writing them in DocBook. On the latter, we're tinkering with different interfaces and different approaches to content management. Stay tuned, and if you haven't registered for the Zope Track at the Python Conference: http://www.digicool.com/News/ZopeTrack ...then you're going to miss out on first looks at this puppy! --Paul