BerkeleyStorage won't help with conflict errors (you will get the same as under filestorage). It only prevents database growth in comparison with filestorage.
i thought Conflict Errors are inherent to ZODB. but i guessed i'm wrong. it's Zope. how can we minimized Conflict Errors? my site will soon be more write intensive; ie more user interactions with polls, comments, etc. at the current rate, zope dies/restarts as and when it feels like. use SQL as the backend?
Hopefully soon I am going to try to get a new coresessiontracking release out. I am not working next week, but hopefully sometime in the next couple weeks. have a nice vacation!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bak@kedai" <kedai@kedai.com.my> To: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:47 AM Subject: [Zope] externalmount & zeo voodoo
hi. request for enlightenment ;) (or some zen) is there any other way of creating the mount point for an ExternalMount, apart from the python incantation mentioned in Randy's ZEO-Session How-To?
also, say i have a few ZEO Clients, all in different machines. i assume i just mount the External Mount on one ZC, and have the External Method available in all ZCs. pls correct me if i'm wrong
if i the use Berkeley storage for the External Mount, i will not get Conflict Error, competing writes anyloonger .. right?
dazed and confused thanks
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BerkeleyStorage won't help with conflict errors (you will get the same as under filestorage). It only prevents database growth in comparison with filestorage.
i thought Conflict Errors are inherent to ZODB. but i guessed i'm wrong. it's Zope.
Nope, it's ZODB. But ZODB != FileStorage. BerkeleyStorage is at the same level as FileStorage, and it has no better or worse performance than FileStorage when dealing with conflict errors. You can think of ZODB as the technology that includes FileStorage and BerkeleyStorage as well as all the other kinds of storages. It's not incorrect to say that ConflictErrors are inherent to ZODB, but it is incorrect to say that ConflictErrors are inherent to FileStorage.
how can we minimized Conflict Errors? my site will soon be more write intensive; ie more user interactions with polls, comments, etc. at the current rate, zope dies/restarts as and when it feels like. use SQL as the backend?
It sounds like you have two issues: 1. you need better write performance. this can be done by minimizing conflicterrors. 2. your zope is apparently unstable (which may have nothing to do with the number of conflict errors you're getting) Issue #1 is addressable by new application level conflict resolution code added to ZODB which should be out in 2.3.1b2 (the release of which is currently pending on new catalog code to pass all of its unit and performance tests). You can read about it at http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZODB/ApplicationLevelConflictResolution. Other complementary ways to deal with this are intelligent coding (don't do writes when you don't have to, don't modify objects that you don't need to), appropriate data structuring (use lots of subfolders in objectmanagers, use other partitioned data structures like BTrees when possible), and knowing when to punt and use a relational database that uses locking instead of optimistic concurrency like the ZODB. There's no cookie-cutter solution... hopefully when folks get used to the new app-level conflict resolution, they'll make use of it in their products to increase write performance and minimize conflicts. I'm going to try this for the next sessioning release. The current generation of Zope products know nothing about conflict resolution, so it'll probably take a while for it to become mainstream. Issue #2 is separate... you should turn on request logging (see the -M switch in z2.py) and use the script at http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/DEBUG-LOG (ignore the bit at the top about inserting stuff into z2.py, it's been superseded by the -M switch) to figure out what requests aren't returning from a method call. With that info, you should hopefully be able to establish a pattern and isolate the problem.
Hopefully soon I am going to try to get a new coresessiontracking release out. I am not working next week, but hopefully sometime in the next
couple
weeks. have a nice vacation!
Thanks!
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