External editor for ZMI
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI? -- John
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
ExternalEditor. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:49:19AM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
ExternalEditor.
Do you mean this? http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor Are there any screen shots of it in action? I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me.
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Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com
-- John
AFAIK External Editor just provides the infrastructure not the editor itself. I use the External Editor product/infrastructure and HTML Kit on Windows: http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
External editor is an interface product that allows you to edit Zope objects with your local editor (vi, emacs, nano, wordpad, etc) but it does require installation of a helper product and Python on the client machine. On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, John Poltorak wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:49:19AM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
ExternalEditor.
Do you mean this?
http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor
Are there any screen shots of it in action?
I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me.
--
Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com
-- Dennis Allison * Computer Systems Laboratory * Gates 227 * Stanford University * Stanford CA 94305 * (650) 723-9213 * (650) 723-0033 fax * allison@shasta.stanford.edu * allison@sumeru.stanford.edu
Do you mean this?
http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor
Are there any screen shots of it in action?
I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me. Yes, that's what Paul meant. I tried it once and it is not difficult to install. You just have to follow the *README* and configure it to start the editor you want according to the file type. You can edit word and excel files, bitmaps, python scripts, dtml, zpt, and much more. Off course you need to have the editor programs installed on the client machine.
There were some bugs with excel and word, but I read in the link you posted that they are likely solved (or I hope so :-)). Regards, Josef
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 21:14 +0200, Josef Meile wrote:
Do you mean this?
http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor
Are there any screen shots of it in action?
I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me. Yes, that's what Paul meant. I tried it once and it is not difficult to install. You just have to follow the *README* and configure it to start the editor you want according to the file type. You can edit word and excel files, bitmaps, python scripts, dtml, zpt, and much more. Off course you need to have the editor programs installed on the client machine.
There were some bugs with excel and word, but I read in the link you posted that they are likely solved (or I hope so :-)).
Yep. Lots of Excel and Word plugin fixes. One particularly egregious bug that was fixed: if a user exited Word/Excel without saving first and got the nag dialog that asked him if he wants to save the file, the file wouldn't be saved and no error would be presented. Another Excel-specific bug was fixed inasmuch as EE would sporadically throw an error if a user was "camping" on an input cell due to COM async weirdness. - C
Chris McDonough wrote:
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 21:14 +0200, Josef Meile wrote:
Do you mean this?
http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor
Are there any screen shots of it in action?
I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me.
Yes, that's what Paul meant. I tried it once and it is not difficult to install. You just have to follow the *README* and configure it to start the editor you want according to the file type. You can edit word and excel files, bitmaps, python scripts, dtml, zpt, and much more. Off course you need to have the editor programs installed on the client machine.
There were some bugs with excel and word, but I read in the link you posted that they are likely solved (or I hope so :-)).
Yep. Lots of Excel and Word plugin fixes. One particularly egregious bug that was fixed: if a user exited Word/Excel without saving first and got the nag dialog that asked him if he wants to save the file, the file wouldn't be saved and no error would be presented. Another Excel-specific bug was fixed inasmuch as EE would sporadically throw an error if a user was "camping" on an input cell due to COM async weirdness.
- C
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I've been following this discussion with some interest as I have never been able to get ExternalEditor to work for me. Now, that said, I have it confiured enough that it will present me with an editor and a file (WinWord) by clicking on the pencil. But I am confused on two points: 1.) When Word opens a document it presents me with text without any formatting. Also gives me metadata, URL, cookie info etc. Is this how it is supposed to work? 2.) When I save the work, I don't know where is goes or how to get it back to my plone site. Just seems that the documentation gets vague on these issues. Looking for some enlightenment. Thanks. ken wood
On 28.Jun 2005 - 07:12:14, ken wood wrote:
I've been following this discussion with some interest as I have never been able to get ExternalEditor to work for me. Now, that said, I have it confiured enough that it will present me with an editor and a file (WinWord) by clicking on the pencil. But I am confused on two points: 1.) When Word opens a document it presents me with text without any formatting. Also gives me metadata, URL, cookie info etc. Is this how it is supposed to work?
Can't help you with that, except maybe you could check that the mimetype of the document you want to edit is correct. ExternalEditor IIRC uses that to determine which editor to invoke.
2.) When I save the work, I don't know where is goes or how to get it back to my plone site.
Nothing needs to be done. ExternalEditor takes care of uploading, as soon as you save the file. At least that's how its supposed to work and it did last time I used it. Back then, it had some problems when my gvim detached from the calling process, but that could be worked around... Andreas -- There will be big changes for you but you will be happy.
I've been following this discussion with some interest as I have never been able to get ExternalEditor to work for me. Now, that said, I have it confiured enough that it will present me with an editor and a file (WinWord) by clicking on the pencil. But I am confused on two points: 1.) When Word opens a document it presents me with text without any formatting. Also gives me metadata, URL, cookie info etc. Is this how it is supposed to work?
No... sounds like there may be a mismatch between the version of external editor on your server and the version on your client. At least that's all I can think of.
2.) When I save the work, I don't know where is goes or how to get it back to my plone site.
It's supposed to save on top of whatever document you clicked on.
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I've been following this discussion with some interest as I have never been able to get ExternalEditor to work for me. Now, that said, I have it confiured enough that it will present me with an editor and a file (WinWord) by clicking on the pencil. But I am confused on two points: 1.) When Word opens a document it presents me with text without any formatting. Also gives me metadata, URL, cookie info etc. Is this how it is supposed to work? 2.) When I save the work, I don't know where is goes or how to get it back to my plone site. Just seems that the documentation gets vague on these issues. Looking for some enlightenment.
It sounds as though your browser has invoked WinWord as the "helper" for the ExternalEditor "stub" file, which has the data you describe in it. You want to associate the EE helper application ('zopeedit.py') with that mimetype, 'application/x-zope-edit'. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 202-558-7113 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCwk74+gerLs4ltQ4RAsSQAJ4iaUoBp3SAGgwenLigJ+g4eADFTgCggAvJ GM8sBxHOL0t99kbH65J07bU= =Cgxm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
emacs via ftp -- see the Zope Book for funky details. On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
ExternalEditor.
-- Dennis Allison * Computer Systems Laboratory * Gates 227 * Stanford University * Stanford CA 94305 * (650) 723-9213 * (650) 723-0033 fax * allison@shasta.stanford.edu * allison@sumeru.stanford.edu
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
I've often used the WebDAV support for using standard file system based editing tools on Zope content. How well it works depends greatly on the WebDAV client you have (I guess the WebDAV client authors would claim that it depends on the WebDAV server, but in this case the server is fixed as Zope) On MacOSX, it works very well. I've never been able to get Windows Web Folders to work successfully with Zope.
I prefer: emacs with ExternalEditor - to edit ZODB objects, emacs with TRAMP - to edit native filesystem files via SSH, see: http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/tramp/ emacs via FTP (with AngeFTP or with TRAMP) is also good for both of these when configured. But be aware that content and authorization strings are unencrypted over the wire for FTP, or HTTP (ExternalEditor and ZMI). If it's behind Apache HTTPS, ZMI or ExternalEditor should be secure. Please correct me if I'm wrong. What about Zope FTP -- can it be secured? Ciao, Nikko Dennis Allison wrote:
emacs via ftp -- see the Zope Book for funky details.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
ExternalEditor.
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Tres Seaver