RE: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem)
Hi again, First of all I'd like to thank those who've been trying to help me. Unfortunately it hasn't been successfull so far. So, here's an update on the current status. Maybe you'll find more info to help me out. :-) When I wrote my first mail (see below) this was how START.BAT looked like: * Trying offline with no NIC installed, see attachment: no_nic_offline.txt * Trying online with no NIC installed, see attachtment: no_nic_online.txt And my hosts.sam file looked like this (still does), see attachment: hosts.txt After your tips I tried several but --as you already understood-- without success. So, I got myself a NIC and installed it. It was recognized by Win98 and drivers were installed. Now I tried to login offline again but unluckily again without success. This is how START.BAT looked like: with_nic_offline.txt Other settings etc.: * Windows 98 SE * Computername: POPEYE * Browser: Ms Internet Explorer 4.5 * Zope version: 2.5.1 * Zope superuser: StJohnHospital NB: Everytime I tried to login, I used all of the following addresses: * http://localhost:8080/manage * http://popeye:8080/manage * http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage * http://StJohnHospital:8080/manage Hopefully this leads to solving my problem! Many thanks! Yvon Breuer -----Original Message----- From: Breuer, Yvon Sent: Dienstag, 16. Juli 2002 10:30 To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem) Hi Zope-wizards, As you can see in my subject: I'm getting quite frustrated by some stupid error when I'm trying to login to my Zope server. (Yep, I'm a newbie...) Situation I'm going to create a website to gather funds for a hospital in Ghana (St. John of God Hospital in Duayaw Nkwanta). To get an idea about the situation: http://www.zwo.nhl.nl/hbov/buitenlandstage/ghana.html (Dutch & English). Website I want to do this with Zope & Python. I want people to be able to do online donations, retrieve information about the project, maybe send a mailinglist to keep them up to date and there are many more plans. So: I've got a lot to learn... Learn & develop @ work & @ home In order to learn as quickly as possible I tried to install Zope at work and at home (of course during my break ;-) ). At work (Win2000 Prof.), everything functions OK. I've done the tutorial and I'm now working myself through the ZopeBook. So far so good, but... My problem At home I've installed Zope (2.5.1) on my computer (Win98). No errors occured during installation. So, just like at work I tried to login to Zope for the first time, but... When I start the START.BAT, my computer starts a dial-in to my internetprovider! It seems this occurs when START.BAT is trying to retrieve my hostname. When START.BAT is finished, I type in... * http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage (START.BAT comes up with 127.0.0.1 as localhost and 8080 as port) * http://popeye:8080/manage or http://popeye:8021/manage (popeye is the computername in my Win98 network-settings and START.BAT comes up with popeye as localhost for port 8021) * http://localhost:8080/manage (should always work, right? Not!) * http://stjohnhospital:8080/manage (stjohnhospital is the superuser I installed Zope with) ... but none of them works!!! All that happens is that my browser (MsIE) when I'm offline shows me that the page cannot be found and when I'm online it shows me either "server error" or "page not found". >:-(( NB: It doesn't matter wether I login to my internprovider or not. I'm quite sure it's nonesense to be online in order to login to a local Zope-server, but hey, I've tried everything possible (as far as I know). I also tried to un- and reinstall Zope, but that didn't work either. :-( So please, help me out here!!! (In a short while I've got some days off and I want to do some work for the website at home.) Not only me, but also the people we're trying to help will be very gratefull! ;-)) Best regards, Yvon Breuer
OK, this is good information that you attached. Zope is starting normally. For example, in no_nic_offline.txt, you can see that the http server, on port 8080, thinks that it should be called "127.0.0.1". It should therefore answer at http://127.0.0.1:8080 If it does not, then we need to know what you observe when you try. I am wondering if the problem might be the very old version of Internet Explorer. Perhaps it thinks it is off-line. It has been so long since I used that verson that I no longer remember the details on that, but look under the File menu and see if there is a "Work Offline" menu item. If there is and it is checked, uncheck it and try again. If you possibly can, download a newer version, or some other browser, like Mozilla, and try that (Mozilla is smaller than IE, so if you have limited network capability, Moz would be easier to get). The other thing you can try as a check, but it probably will not add anything because it looks like Zope is starting normally, is to try to ping yourself. Open a command prompt and type ping 127.0.0.1 <ENTER> You should get something like this if your network stack is working: Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 Cheers, Tom P [Breuer, Yvon] First of all I'd like to thank those who've been trying to help me. Unfortunately it hasn't been successfull so far. So, here's an update on the current status. Maybe you'll find more info to help me out. :-) When I wrote my first mail (see below) this was how START.BAT looked like: * Trying offline with no NIC installed, see attachment: no_nic_offline.txt * Trying online with no NIC installed, see attachtment: no_nic_online.txt And my hosts.sam file looked like this (still does), see attachment: hosts.txt After your tips I tried several but --as you already understood-- without success. So, I got myself a NIC and installed it. It was recognized by Win98 and drivers were installed. Now I tried to login offline again but unluckily again without success. This is how START.BAT looked like: with_nic_offline.txt
More suggestions & questions: * Do you have some sort of proxy system installed? * can you telnet to zope? "telnet 127.0.0.1 8080" * what's the output from "netstat -n -a"? * what's the output from "ipconfig /all"? * can you ping yourself? "ping 127.0.0.1" * is the TCP stack installed? * is the computer plugged in and turned on? :-) Now that I wrote those out, you probably should try them in reverse order... It sounds like you have basic networking issues. Unfortunately, you've got them under '98 which means most of us will wince and tell you to upgrade to NT/2000/XP/Linux, which I know you probably don't want to hear. To be honest, I'm not even sure if netstat and ipconfig are available under '98. I wish I could be more help. Of course, I wish Microsoft never reased '98, too. -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Breuer, Yvon Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:10 AM To: zope@zope.org Cc: tpassin@mitretek.org; renfro@tntech.edu; plasser@hexagon.at; douwe@oberon.nl Subject: RE: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem) Hi again, First of all I'd like to thank those who've been trying to help me. Unfortunately it hasn't been successfull so far. So, here's an update on the current status. Maybe you'll find more info to help me out. :-) When I wrote my first mail (see below) this was how START.BAT looked like: Trying offline with no NIC installed, see attachment: no_nic_offline.txt Trying online with no NIC installed, see attachtment: no_nic_online.txt And my hosts.sam file looked like this (still does), see attachment: hosts.txt After your tips I tried several but --as you already understood-- without success. So, I got myself a NIC and installed it. It was recognized by Win98 and drivers were installed. Now I tried to login offline again but unluckily again without success. This is how START.BAT looked like: with_nic_offline.txt Other settings etc.: Windows 98 SE Computername: POPEYE Browser: Ms Internet Explorer 4.5 Zope version: 2.5.1 Zope superuser: StJohnHospital NB: Everytime I tried to login, I used all of the following addresses: http://localhost:8080/manage http://popeye:8080/manage http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage http://StJohnHospital:8080/manage Hopefully this leads to solving my problem! Many thanks! Yvon Breuer -----Original Message----- From: Breuer, Yvon Sent: Dienstag, 16. Juli 2002 10:30 To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Heeeeeeeeeeeeelp (login problem) Hi Zope-wizards, As you can see in my subject: I'm getting quite frustrated by some stupid error when I'm trying to login to my Zope server. (Yep, I'm a newbie...) Situation I'm going to create a website to gather funds for a hospital in Ghana (St. John of God Hospital in Duayaw Nkwanta). To get an idea about the situation: http://www.zwo.nhl.nl/hbov/buitenlandstage/ghana.html (Dutch & English). Website I want to do this with Zope & Python. I want people to be able to do online donations, retrieve information about the project, maybe send a mailinglist to keep them up to date and there are many more plans. So: I've got a lot to learn... Learn & develop @ work & @ home In order to learn as quickly as possible I tried to install Zope at work and at home (of course during my break ;-) ). At work (Win2000 Prof.), everything functions OK. I've done the tutorial and I'm now working myself through the ZopeBook. So far so good, but... My problem At home I've installed Zope (2.5.1) on my computer (Win98). No errors occured during installation. So, just like at work I tried to login to Zope for the first time, but... When I start the START.BAT, my computer starts a dial-in to my internetprovider! It seems this occurs when START.BAT is trying to retrieve my hostname. When START.BAT is finished, I type in... http://127.0.0.1:8080/manage (START.BAT comes up with 127.0.0.1 as localhost and 8080 as port) http://popeye:8080/manage or http://popeye:8021/manage (popeye is the computername in my Win98 network-settings and START.BAT comes up with popeye as localhost for port 8021) http://localhost:8080/manage (should always work, right? Not!) http://stjohnhospital:8080/manage (stjohnhospital is the superuser I installed Zope with) ... but none of them works!!! All that happens is that my browser (MsIE) when I'm offline shows me that the page cannot be found and when I'm online it shows me either "server error" or "page not found". >:-(( NB: It doesn't matter wether I login to my internprovider or not. I'm quite sure it's nonesense to be online in order to login to a local Zope-server, but hey, I've tried everything possible (as far as I know). I also tried to un- and reinstall Zope, but that didn't work either. :-( So please, help me out here!!! (In a short while I've got some days off and I want to do some work for the website at home.) Not only me, but also the people we're trying to help will be very gratefull! ;-)) Best regards, Yvon Breuer
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Thomas B. Passin