Hi All, I've just stumbled across Zope looking for a platform I can develop web-based Db apps under, and having worked through the first couple of chapters and the tutorial it's all looking pretty rosy so far... I have previously set up some small web-based Db's using PHP4 and MySQL, but need something where several developers can work on one project in an organised fashion, so Zope seems to provide in an easier-to-use fashion. I notice from the help files that Zope bills itself as an alternative to PHP - can I integrate PHP into it or do I not need it if we have Python? I've never programmed in Python, but it seems fairly straightforward and not too removed from other scripting languges. My question really, I spose, before I dive in and start writing things, is how good is Zope? Does it have any obvious limitations? What's the support like? I subscribed to this group about 12 hours ago and seem to have a healthy number of messages, so it looks pretty well supported - is this 'cause Zope is great, or are you all unfortunate victims that have somehow got locked in and now can't get out?!! Anyway, many thanks for any help! Regards, Greg Conway. -- ================================== Greg Conway Technical Director GML Networking Technologies Email/MSN: greg@gmlnt.com ICQ#: 100219981 mobile tel.: +44 (0) 7974 666 967 mobile fax: +44 (0) 7970 087 935 Internet: http://www.gmlnt.com office tel.: +44 (0) 1255 672 103 office fax: +44 (0) 1255 679 909 ================================== *********************************************************************** This is a confidential communication between sender and addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender and do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Any opinions or views expressed are those of the individual, and unless otherwise stated, are not those of the company. All attachments and intellectual rights remain the property of GML (NT) Limited. ***********************************************************************
I notice from the help files that Zope bills itself as an alternative to PHP - can I integrate PHP into it or do I not need it if we have Python? You don't need PHP. Python is a very nice, great, intuinitive scripting language. So the calculations, etc you perform in PHP can be done with 'Python Scripts'.... or dtml or 'External methods'. Zope also has a 'Perl method', which allows you to use Perl. There isn't a 'PHP method' as far as I know of.
I've never programmed in Python, but it seems fairly straightforward and not too removed from other scripting >languges.
My personal opinion: It is the nicest scripting language at the moment.
My question really, I spose, before I dive in and start writing things, is how good is Zope? Does it have any >obvious limitations?
Not that I know of at the moment. But I think every application has it's pro's and con's it depends for what you really want to use it. What's the support like? Great. People on the mailing list are very helpfull. If you really need big support, you can still hire a professional or contact zope.com and order a certain support contract.
I subscribed to this group about 12 hours ago and seem to have a healthy number of messages, so it looks pretty well supported - is this 'cause Zope is great, or are you all unfortunate victims that have somehow got locked in and now can't get out?!!
No, I'm here because I like Zope . :-)
Anyway, many thanks for any help!
My pleasure, I guess other users on this list can give better interesting experiences. Tom.
On Thursday 18 October 2001 07:44 am, Greg Conway allegedly wrote:
Hi All,
I've just stumbled across Zope looking for a platform I can develop web-based Db apps under, and having worked through the first couple of chapters and the tutorial it's all looking pretty rosy so far...
Welcome.
I have previously set up some small web-based Db's using PHP4 and MySQL, but need something where several developers can work on one project in an organised fashion, so Zope seems to provide in an easier-to-use fashion. I notice from the help files that Zope bills itself as an alternative to PHP - can I integrate PHP into it or do I not need it if we have Python?
No, you don't need PHP. You have Python, DTML and Page Templates (among others) to take its place.
I've never programmed in Python, but it seems fairly straightforward and not too removed from other scripting languges.
Python is the easiest and most productive language I have used thus far. It is very easy to read as well as write, making it easier to learn about how Zope works by reading the code.
My question really, I spose, before I dive in and start writing things, is how good is Zope? Does it have any obvious limitations? What's the support like?
The biggest limitations are its steep learning curve (which is offset by very rapid development times and this great community) and quite possibly the seemingly unlimited options in the way you can implement things. Of course that is a pro to.
I subscribed to this group about 12 hours ago and seem to have a healthy number of messages, so it looks pretty well supported - is this 'cause Zope is great, or are you all unfortunate victims that have somehow got locked in and now can't get out?!!
I doubt anyone is here that isn't here by choice. There are certainly more "popular" systems out there than Zope, though I doubt you will find one with the sheer flexibility and power Zope offers (once you get past that learning curve).
Anyway, many thanks for any help!
Regards,
Greg Conway.
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