i want to generate a document and change permissions for that document without using the manage-screen. Generating the document worked fine - it copies a default document to a new generated document-object: <dtml-call "manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addDTMLDocument('pre_article','Preliminary article',default_pre_article)"> now an existing role (f. e. Owner) should be able to get 'Change DTMS Documents' right for that document-object. I assume <dtml-call "pre_article.manage_permission()"> will do the job. But it requires parameters and I couldn't find documentation on how to use it. Any idea? Peter -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Breuer, http://www.psych.uni-goettingen.de/home/breuer Georg-Elias-Mueller-Inst. f. Psychologie, Gosslerstr. 14, 37073 Goettingen, Germany Tel: (+49)551-39-3588, Fax: (+49)551-39-3662