I got it to go using: <dtml-in expr="(FrontPage,Purpose)"> **<dtml-var title_or_id>** <dtml-var text> <HR size="1"> </dtml-in> I tried <dtml-var "FrontPage.text()"> and that worked fine too. Thanks. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Simon Michael [mailto:simon@joyful.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:52 PM To: Meilicke, Scott Cc: 'zope@zope.org' Subject: Re: [Zope]Wikis without the headers and footers? You might try <dtml-call "RESPONSE.set('noheaders',1)"> at the top of your page. Does that work ? If not I believe <dtml-var "FrontPage.text()"> would do it.