The total size for the EuroZope design is approx 26K. This is quite reasonable for even a slower connection. It is possible to design easy to use and nice looking web pages that are not slow. The new.zope.org is not great looking. It is fast though. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Penny To: zope@zope.org Sent: 10/11/2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Come kick some tires, at new.zope.org To quote Opus "I object, I object, By Golly, I object". I visit zope.org nearly every day to 1) look for new product announcements 2) as a portal to the "Zope Exits" 3) for documentation 4) to download products Anything that slows those down is a _bad_ idea; and lots of graphics will do nothing but slow those down. Now... If you were to propose a "Am I hot" section where people could submit zope based websites for peer review/rating, (preferably multi-axis, perhaps pretty, functional, novel, etc.) then I would have no objection. But please leave zope.org very plain jane.