Is there a reason I can't add a UserFolder (and subsequently users) to an instance of a ZClass that is sub-classed from Folder? I do not get any errors. But the acl_users folder is not in the instance and the user gets added in the next acl_users up the aquisition chain. -- Tim Cook -- Cook Information Systems | Office: (901) 884-4126 8am-5pm CDT * It's easy to stop making mistakes. Just stop having ideas. * FreePM Project Coordinator http://www.freepm.org OSHCA Founding Supporter http://www.oshca.org