From: Nemeth Miklos <nemeth@iqsoft.hu>

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Is there any doc on "this()" or "id()"? I think you explored this teritory. YOU should create a how-to on the topic.

Okie-dokie. But then I have to join zope as a member, huh? :) If you provide me with enough info on how to submit a how-to, I will make one. By the way, is it possible to set up some search features on the how-to's? With over 100 how-to's, it is a little bit painful to go through them.

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Sometimes learning a new software is not so much what you know to do, but what you know NOT TO DO.

That is why programmers do not like to learn new languages and tools. That is why UNIX is forever.

I guess there was a misunderstanding here. I am a programmer and I like to learn new language and tools. I am just making the comment that, as a programmer, it's often more important to know the limitations of a language/tool, than to know its capabilities. For instance, in Python you can't write the incremental operator i++. You write it, you run into a bug, and you waste your time. It's like when I was learning portuguese... I already knew spanish. The two languages are too similar, so instead of learning what words I can use in portuguese, I was learning what words I SHOULDN'T use, why I shouldn't use them, and what alternatives there were. :)

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Also, is there any documentation on calling DTML methods with arguments? I know you can do it with "myMethod(_.None, _, arg1=val1, arg2=val2, ...)", but I'd like to know what the role of _.None is. (I know _ is the namespace...), that is, if I replace it with something like "myMethod(coolDude, _, ...)" what sort of catastrophe might happen. :)

This is completely new to me! Where did you learned it! I thought I read or at least browsed all how-tos and Zope docs.

Ha! After reading Zope E-group for a few months, I ran into a few messages giving out all kinds of undocumented features. For instance, the &dmtl-myVar; directive, which is equivalent to <dtml-var myVar>. I remember someone said that the _.None argument represents the "target object" for DMTL methods. Now, what is a target object, I don't know. :) regards, Hung Jung ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com