I've searched most site that have info on ZEO but have not been able to find answers to my questions on install for ZEO. Maybe someone on the list can help. I am running Zope 2.7 (with Plone site) on a Win'03 Server. I would like to run ZEO Server and Client on a Linux Server. The Linux Server also runs Zope 2.7 with a Plone site. Python version are 2.3.3. Is this a workable configuration ? Ultimate goal is to do away with the Win32 Server (at least for Zope). I have noticed that most documentation on ZEO is a bit dated (2003). Where can I get newer documentation or HowTo on ZEO? Thnaks in advance, ken wood
Hi, There's a newer version of the Zope Book available at Plope.com. It's being updated, but the ZEO chapter seems to be current. http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition It has a chapter on ZEO & Scalability. -Jon Cyr ken wood wrote:
I've searched most site that have info on ZEO but have not been able to find answers to my questions on install for ZEO. Maybe someone on the list can help.
I am running Zope 2.7 (with Plone site) on a Win'03 Server. I would like to run ZEO Server and Client on a Linux Server. The Linux Server also runs Zope 2.7 with a Plone site. Python version are 2.3.3. Is this a workable configuration ? Ultimate goal is to do away with the Win32 Server (at least for Zope).
I have noticed that most documentation on ZEO is a bit dated (2003). Where can I get newer documentation or HowTo on ZEO? Thnaks in advance, ken wood
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ken wood wrote:
I have noticed that most documentation on ZEO is a bit dated (2003). Where can I get newer documentation or HowTo on ZEO?
The good and old Zope Book still rules... :) http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/ZEO.stx I recently used this chapter, it's self explanatory. Take a look at the zope.conf file too. It already have a example of ZEO. Fernando Lujan
On 4/27/05, ken wood <kenwood@thesportsresort.com> wrote:
I've searched most site that have info on ZEO but have not been able to find answers to my questions on install for ZEO. Maybe someone on the list can help.
I am running Zope 2.7 (with Plone site) on a Win'03 Server. I would like to run ZEO Server and Client on a Linux Server. The Linux Server also runs Zope 2.7 with a Plone site. Python version are 2.3.3. Is this a workable configuration ? Ultimate goal is to do away with the Win32 Server (at least for Zope).
I have noticed that most documentation on ZEO is a bit dated (2003). Where can I get newer documentation or HowTo on ZEO? Thnaks in advance, ken wood
this is how i've upgraded all these while http://myzope.kedai.com.my/Members/kedai/News_Item.2003-11-15.5611/view
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Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote:
On 4/27/05, ken wood <kenwood@thesportsresort.com> wrote:
I've searched most site that have info on ZEO but have not been able to find answers to my questions on install for ZEO. Maybe someone on the list can help.
I am running Zope 2.7 (with Plone site) on a Win'03 Server. I would like to run ZEO Server and Client on a Linux Server. The Linux Server also runs Zope 2.7 with a Plone site. Python version are 2.3.3. Is this a workable configuration ? Ultimate goal is to do away with the Win32 Server (at least for Zope).
I have noticed that most documentation on ZEO is a bit dated (2003). Where can I get newer documentation or HowTo on ZEO? Thnaks in advance, ken wood
this is how i've upgraded all these while
http://myzope.kedai.com.my/Members/kedai/News_Item.2003-11-15.5611/view
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Hey guys, I appreciate all the great tips on the cionfiguration issue. But my main issue is about infrastructure: Which hardware and / or operating systems can be used for a Zope/Zeo system. In particular, can I run a Zope instance on my Win32 server and have a Zeo Server/Clients on my Linux server? If I use all the same versions (Python, Zope and Plone and Products) can I use a multi-OS infratructure? Thanks, ken wood
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I appreciate all the great tips on the cionfiguration issue. But my main issue is about infrastructure: Which hardware and / or operating systems can be used for a Zope/Zeo system. In particular, can I run a Zope instance on my Win32 server and have a Zeo Server/Clients on my Linux server? If I use all the same versions (Python, Zope and Plone and Products) can I use a multi-OS infratructure?
Yes. The ZEO server does not need to have any of your products, or even Zope installed; it can be run from the "standalone" ZODB release which corresponds to the Zope release you are running on the appservers. Tres. - -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver@zope.com Zope Corporation "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCb4vTGqWXf00rNCgRAsHJAJ9k4bbvsxV/r9uUk68N4WIOpQHFCwCfeFo+ xBq3BYTITSoxZJ/xGIgAiL8= =OaGc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
ken wood wrote:
I appreciate all the great tips on the cionfiguration issue. But my main issue is about infrastructure: Which hardware and / or operating systems can be used for a Zope/Zeo system.
OS: pretty much any Unixish OS, though on anything but Linux, BSD, and Mac OS X (and maybe Solaris) you may run into some small problems. Also Windows. Hardware: anything with enough juice that can run your OS. Not very specific, I know, but it all depends on the performance you need. Less than .5 hits/sec and pretty much anything that'll load Zope will work.
In particular, can I run a Zope instance on my Win32 server and have a Zeo Server/Clients on my Linux server?
Sure. Why not?
If I use all the same versions (Python, Zope and Plone and Products) can I use a multi-OS infratructure?
Almost certainly. There are a few OS-specific Products, though, but that only matters on the ZEO client (except for storages, which only matter on the ZEO server.) You don't even have to match versions, save for sanity. ZEO is not a tightly-coupled communications protocol. Consider: Windows Python 2.3.4 Zope 2.7.5 ZEO client - SomeProduct 1.1 Linux Python 2.3.3 Zope 2.7.3 ZEO server - no products ZEO client - SomeProduct 1.0 ZEO command line client, for debugging This would work fine. All three ZEO clients would have the same data (that from the ZEO server), even with different software. --jcc
FYI, Back during 2.6.x, I developed my whole system on a Windows Laptop, migrated to a Windows ZEO System, 1 client, 1 server. Then moved the ZEO client & server to Red Hat AS 2.1, and now finally to SuSE 9.0. The only differences for me were the steps in installing PIL (Python Imaging Library) on Linux vs. Windows. I had to wait to be more comfortable deploying on Linux, but Zope was obviously ready for Linux long before I was. If you can stay away from platform-dependent products, and their dependencies, (Photo Product & ImageMagick for one), you should be able to mix and match. The underlying python seems to facilitate this being a sort of intermediary compatibilty layer. My approach was to make sure every component and dependency was python based. Make sure to follow the directions for ZEO client/server compatibility, but those are python concerns. As for performance, I found Linux to be a large boost, especially when run without a GUI... the nature of the beast seems to lean toward Linux for good reason. The other item you'll find on the list, is that a ZEO configuration is much more stable and forgiving than the quite-stable stand-alone Zope. Even internal Zope routines run better in a ZEO setup. -Jon Cyr WeddingWeblog.com J Cameron Cooper wrote:
ken wood wrote:
I appreciate all the great tips on the cionfiguration issue. But my main issue is about infrastructure: Which hardware and / or operating systems can be used for a Zope/Zeo system.
OS: pretty much any Unixish OS, though on anything but Linux, BSD, and Mac OS X (and maybe Solaris) you may run into some small problems. Also Windows.
Hardware: anything with enough juice that can run your OS. Not very specific, I know, but it all depends on the performance you need. Less than .5 hits/sec and pretty much anything that'll load Zope will work.
In particular, can I run a Zope instance on my Win32 server and have a Zeo Server/Clients on my Linux server?
Sure. Why not?
If I use all the same versions (Python, Zope and Plone and Products) can I use a multi-OS infratructure?
Almost certainly. There are a few OS-specific Products, though, but that only matters on the ZEO client (except for storages, which only matter on the ZEO server.)
You don't even have to match versions, save for sanity. ZEO is not a tightly-coupled communications protocol. Consider:
Windows Python 2.3.4 Zope 2.7.5 ZEO client - SomeProduct 1.1
Linux Python 2.3.3 Zope 2.7.3 ZEO server - no products ZEO client - SomeProduct 1.0 ZEO command line client, for debugging
This would work fine. All three ZEO clients would have the same data (that from the ZEO server), even with different software.
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On 4/27/05, ken wood <kenwood@thesportsresort.com> wrote:
Hey guys, I appreciate all the great tips on the cionfiguration issue. But my main issue is about infrastructure: Which hardware and / or operating systems can be used for a Zope/Zeo system. In particular, can I run a Zope instance on my Win32 server and have a Zeo Server/Clients on my Linux server? If I use all the same versions (Python, Zope and Plone and Products) can I use a multi-OS infratructure? Thanks, ken wood
this is what i've learned: -get as much RAM as you possibly can, esp for zeo clients -smp not required on zeo clients -go the unix way, if possible for zeo is much older on unix compared to windows, iirc -hardware need not be the same specifications. just make sure your load balancer can distinguish the difference ..can't think of any now..
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Sorry for the off-topic question... Does anyone know the best place to look for Zope / Plone jobs in London? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ben
Ben Mason wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic question...
Does anyone know the best place to look for Zope / Plone jobs in London?
Look at http://www.google.com/search?q=zope+jobs+london Michael -- http://zope.org/Members/d2m http://planetzope.org
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