Ok folks if you are like me and not only can't see the light but can't even find the path to the light try these things: 1. Do the Python tutorial. 2. Read every message from the list archives for the past two months. 3. Even if you don't want to develop on a beta platform. Install 2.2b4 on another machine and go through the tutorial. Then read the API docs. Took me more or less two days. Time VERY well spent. Now go back to your application and yea shall see the path that will lead you from darkness. Just my two-cents on how I found the path... -- Tim -- Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas Edison
Tim Cook wrote:
Ok folks if you are like me and not only can't see the light but can't even find the path to the light try these things:
1. Do the Python tutorial.
Well, I hardly count as a newbie any more, but I'll just add this: Learning Python was the single most useful thing that helped me grok Zope. (Well, I digress. That plus figuring out acquisition.) It helped enormously, and despite what others have said, I think it sheds an amazing amount of light on How Things Work. :) Just my $0.02. -CJ
"Christopher J. Kucera" wrote:
Tim Cook wrote:
Ok folks if you are like me and not only can't see the light but can't even find the path to the light try these things:
1. Do the Python tutorial.
Well, I hardly count as a newbie any more, but I'll just add this: Learning Python was the single most useful thing that helped me grok Zope. (Well, I digress. That plus figuring out acquisition.) It helped enormously, and despite what others have said, I think it sheds an amazing amount of light on How Things Work. :)
Agreed. I was a Java fan for a couple of years, so when I came to Zope I had some preconceptions about what constitutes an "object". I finally started to get the Zope and Python way of thinking when I realized you could assign arbitrary properties to objects--and those arbitrary properties are first class citizens in the language. For me, Java restricted me to a mindset that required perfection, while Python and Zope encouraged exploration without language-imposed limitations. Python made coding fun again. :-) Shane
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