As a new Zope user I am very very impressed by the amount of work that has gone into this software. I must confess though that I find DTML a little cumbersome to use, and debugging is very difficult (I have yet to find a solution to the problem I described in my "Problems with <dtml-tree>" thread). Is there any prospect of some form of friendlier developer GUI to Zope, perhaps a Java client. Features such as Syntax highlighting of DTML, and a better error description system, would greatly enhance the ease of use of Zope. Further, such a system would not need to replace the present HTML interface, but could be used optionally. I may be showing my newbieness here, but I guess a good first step might be a Java conduit to the Zope database - perhaps one already exists. I am not knocking the hard work that developers have put into the system, however I suspect these are the questions that many Zope newbies will be asking. Ian. -- Ian Clarke Email: I.Clarke@strs.co.uk Homepage: http://www.gnu.demon.co.uk/ Also see: http://freenet.on.openprojects.net/ "All we see and all we seem is but a dream within a dream"