Last week, someone asked if the German beehive GmbH book <http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3932588932/>was the same book as the No Starch English book <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886411573/> -- and the answer is below:

yes it is. but in my opinion, the nostarch book is a little bit better than the german one because one of the nostarch guys was a damn good developer so he was improving the content of the book.

Cheers and don't forget to come visit the Zope Python User Group pages at <http://www.zpug.org> -- we have a meeting this Wednesday -- and its all 100% Python and 100% Guido van Rossum! Come one come all! Chris