I read the recent thread about the so-called WebDAV support in Office2K, and it raised some hope that someone may be able to help me. I am about to have my Zope intranet yanked out from under me, tentatively to be replaced by, of all things, MS SharePoint Server. I have a new "Corporate VP of MIS," who truly believes the whole "increased productivity" myth that MS propounds. Anyway, here's my situation. I have a central ZEO server and four remote ZEO clients. The ZEO clients function as each remote location's "local" intranet server, by caching most of the content, and requesting new objects when notified by the ZEO server that an object has been updated. Each site connects back to the ZEO server by VPN. Oh, and as of today, the remote servers are Zope 2.3, ZEO 1.0b3, and Linux, and the central ZEO server is Zope 2.3, ZEO 1.0b3, and NT4SP6 (*not* my idea!). It works great, giving us near real-time file sharing. But, my users have two complaints that I can't resolve. One, you can't use Office2K for collaborative editing of a document. Now, *we* know that's because Microsoft didn't do WebDAV right. But the suits' perception is "it works with SharePoint, so something must be wrong with Zope." I have no doubts that this is exactly the reaction that MS planned for. Is there any way to make Zope work with the bastardized MS implementation of WebDAV? Their second complaint is that users can't attach a Zope-served document to an email from within MS Outlook. I've tried everything I can think of, but Outlook appears to be brain-damaged. It seems to me that it can only understand "drive letters," not even the so-called WebDAV Folders that MS uses. By "drive letters," it seems to mean UNC mapped SMB shares. Has anyone done any work with making the ZODB speak SMB? I'd really like to stay with the ZODB for storage, because the way ZEO works is one of my biggest selling points for Zope. If I have to go to FileStorage to use Samba, and arrange for scheduled replication over the VPN, I'd be in no better shape than SharePoint, and we'd lose that near real-time thing that everyone seems to love. So, can anyone tell me how to get Zope to serve something that Outlook can understand? Craig Dunigan Web Programmer Esker Software 608.273.6000
Craig, I don't have any direct suggestions to help, other than a conviction that what you want *can* be done. I *think* it is possible to hack around the m$ webdav deficiencies; others may be able to help more on this topic. Have you searched the list archives? I think ChrisW and Andreas and Shane have all talked aobut this before. On the point about drive letters: one solution is to use webdrive, about which I've heard good things: http://www.webdrive.com good luck. I hope you don't have to struggle with sharepoint :-( seb On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 18:36, Dunigan, Craig wrote:
One, you can't use Office2K for collaborative editing of a document. Now, *we* know that's because Microsoft didn't do WebDAV right. But the suits' perception is "it works with SharePoint, so something must be wrong with Zope." I have no doubts that this is exactly the reaction that MS planned for. Is there any way to make Zope work with the bastardized MS implementation of WebDAV?
Their second complaint is that users can't attach a Zope-served document to an email from within MS Outlook. I've tried everything I can think of, but Outlook appears to be brain-damaged. It seems to me that it can only understand "drive letters," not even the so-called WebDAV Folders that MS uses. By "drive letters," it seems to mean UNC mapped SMB shares. Has anyone done any work with making the ZODB speak SMB? I'd really like to stay with the ZODB for storage, because the way ZEO works is one of my biggest selling points for Zope. If I have to go to FileStorage to use Samba, and arrange for scheduled replication over the VPN, I'd be in no better shape than SharePoint, and we'd lose that near real-time thing that everyone seems to love. So, can anyone tell me how to get Zope to serve something that Outlook can understand?
Craig Dunigan Web Programmer Esker Software 608.273.6000
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Dunigan, Craig wrote:
Their second complaint is that users can't attach a Zope-served document to an email from within MS Outlook. I've tried everything I can think of, but Outlook appears to be brain-damaged. It seems to me that it can only understand "drive letters," not even the so-called WebDAV Folders that MS uses. By "drive letters," it seems to mean UNC mapped SMB shares. Has anyone done any work with making the ZODB speak SMB? I'd really like to stay with the ZODB for storage, because the way ZEO works is one of my biggest selling points for Zope. If I have to go to FileStorage to use Samba, and arrange for scheduled replication over the VPN, I'd be in no better shape than SharePoint, and we'd lose that near real-time thing that everyone seems to love. So, can anyone tell me how to get Zope to serve something that Outlook can understand?
WebDrive will allow you to map a real drive letter to a WebDAV server. You can use this to allow attachments of Zope documents to email. (www.webdrive.com) -- Joel BURTON | joel@joelburton.com | joelburton.com | aim: wjoelburton Independent Knowledge Management Consultant
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