i was wondering how i can use chinese characters with Zpe on Linux. does anyone know how? According to my "mild" research so far, i found out that Big5is a 2-byte code and is a part of ISO-10646/Unicode. It also seems to be the de-facto for traditional chinese characters. There're also Unicode CJK and GB. But GB is for China, which uses simplified chinese characters. And CJK includes both Big5 and GB. The most puzzling thing to me is how all this works. Do i need a special browser, font server, Zope products? And when i can display chinese characters using any one of the standards, how am i going to input it in the first place? And last but not least, how does all this ascii and unicode conversion work together? I've seen a couple of chinese sites running on Zope, and was wondering if I could get some help in here. Anyone have any ideas? VCN - The Leader In Corporate Communication Solutions Visit our website at http://www.vcn.com.my. or http://www.vcnlinux.com
Hi Kelvin, Kelvin Cheong wrote:
i was wondering how i can use chinese characters with Zpe on Linux. does anyone know how? According to my "mild" research so far, i found out that Big5is a 2-byte code and is a part of ISO-10646/Unicode. It also seems to be the de-facto for traditional chinese characters. There're also Unicode CJK and GB. But GB is for China, which uses simplified chinese characters. And CJK includes both Big5 and GB.
classic zope is built on python 1.52 and does not naturally support unicode. But there is a light on the horizont: http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring I have a vision of everything working together for localizing and internationalisation ;-) Regards Tino
At 2000-09-07 21:18 +0200, Tino Wildenhain <tino@wildenhain.de> wrote:
Hi Kelvin,
Kelvin Cheong wrote:
i was wondering how i can use chinese characters with Zpe on Linux. does anyone know how? According to my "mild" research so far, i found out that Big5is a 2-byte code and is a part of ISO-10646/Unicode. It also seems to be the de-facto for traditional chinese characters. There're also Unicode CJK and GB. But GB is for China, which uses simplified chinese characters. And CJK includes both Big5 and GB.
classic zope is built on python 1.52 and does not naturally support unicode. But there is a light on the horizont:
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring
I have a vision of everything working together for localizing and internationalisation ;-)
It's good to finally see some Unicode support coming through. I'm a bit surprised that Guido didn't mandate Unicode support from the beginning, given that Python is a relative newcomer to the programming scene. I imagine Python 2 will have full Unicode support, right? Or is it already in Python 1.6? Bad news is that Unicode is not good enough. It allows for about 64k characters, yet Chinese alone (Han ideographs) has over 75,000 (maybe a lot more, but that includes old, rare and uncommon characters). When will we see support for UCS (Universal Character System, ISO 10646) which uses (up to) 32 bit (31 bit?) characters. As far as I know, at present the only UCS characters currently defined are those defined by Unicode (about 40,000 of them), but we should be supporting it now in readiness for the future. Food for thought. Zai jian! (Too bad email is plain ASCII or I could use the proper characters!) David Trudgett
Hi there, I am using Zope successfully with Chinese (Traditional) on Windows. For forward compatibility, I am storing it as UTF-8, which is one storage format for Unicode/ISO 10646 (aka as UCS). It used to work nice until Zope 2.2, where some of the display got mangled. I submitted a patch to the Collector to fix this problem some weeks ago, so hopefully this will go away in the future. Anothere thing is being able to use ZCatalog: I privately patched the splitter program, which is used to split strings into words. I am not yet satisfied with the solution, that's why I did not go public with it. It's also only tested on my windows box. All the best, Christian
-----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Tino Wildenhain Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 3:18 AM To: Kelvin Cheong Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Using Chinese Characters
Hi Kelvin,
Kelvin Cheong wrote:
i was wondering how i can use chinese characters with Zpe on Linux. does anyone know how? According to my "mild" research so far, i
found out that
Big5is a 2-byte code and is a part of ISO-10646/Unicode. It also seems to be the de-facto for traditional chinese characters. There're also Unicode CJK and GB. But GB is for China, which uses simplified chinese characters. And CJK includes both Big5 and GB.
classic zope is built on python 1.52 and does not naturally support unicode. But there is a light on the horizont:
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring
I have a vision of everything working together for localizing and internationalisation ;-)
Regards Tino
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Christian, Thanks for the tip. Your help is much appreciated. Further to your reply, I would like to ask what the differences of UTF-8 are compared to Big5 Code. Apparently (from my research on Big5) it is the most commonly used unicode for chinese characters. Kindly advice. Thank you once again. Regards, amoebia. Christian Wittern writes:
Hi there,
I am using Zope successfully with Chinese (Traditional) on Windows. For forward compatibility, I am storing it as UTF-8, which is one storage format for Unicode/ISO 10646 (aka as UCS). It used to work nice until Zope 2.2, where some of the display got mangled. I submitted a patch to the Collector to fix this problem some weeks ago, so hopefully this will go away in the future. Anothere thing is being able to use ZCatalog: I privately patched the splitter program, which is used to split strings into words. I am not yet satisfied with the solution, that's why I did not go public with it. It's also only tested on my windows box.
All the best,
Christian
-----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Tino Wildenhain Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 3:18 AM To: Kelvin Cheong Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Using Chinese Characters
Hi Kelvin,
Kelvin Cheong wrote:
i was wondering how i can use chinese characters with Zpe on Linux. does anyone know how? According to my "mild" research so far, i
found out that
Big5is a 2-byte code and is a part of ISO-10646/Unicode. It also seems to be the de-facto for traditional chinese characters. There're also Unicode CJK and GB. But GB is for China, which uses simplified chinese characters. And CJK includes both Big5 and GB.
classic zope is built on python 1.52 and does not naturally support unicode. But there is a light on the horizont:
http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring
I have a vision of everything working together for localizing and internationalisation ;-)
Regards Tino
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