A colleague insightfully commented that while Dynamo has a high bullshit factor, this is the reason it sells. Take a look at this screen shot: http://www.atg.com/news/images/screen-shots/systemconsole.gif Dynamo is an expensive, closed product with a promotional web site that smells like a million-dollar penthouse office space, replete with glass walls and postmodern sculptures. It smells a bit funky, and the people are possibly evil, but the product is of high quality, and it sells. And because it sells, many people use it, and because so many people use it, skilled developers exist in large numbers. Unfortunately, I can't say the same of Zope. Speaking of which, SNMP support for Zope would have been nice. Then we could import the numbers needed to build monitors like the one featured in the screen shot. -- Alexander Staubo http://alex.mop.no/ "Do not go gentle into that good night/old age should rave and burn against the close of day/Rage, rage against the dying of the light." --Dylan Thomas