Curtis, I 'run' the LiBC --Linux in Boise Club--- and the website(s). We run Zope. You can show them: http://www.libc.org http://theigloo.libc.org As examples, and I might be able to be talked into converting one or two of them into CDROM demos... Though they are both being migrated to 2.2, and improved in the process. ---note: the first URL is a ZEO server ;-) hmmm... somthing tells me ZEO on a CDROm could be righteous.... -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are easy to annoy, and have the root password.