Hello, Is there any concern about naming confusion with the new VOIP browser extension called "Zoep" (from Slashdot this morning). Mozilla Firebird became FireFox, due to naming confusion. Should these folks continue with such a similar name? Is anyone concerned? Two cents, -Jon -- Jonathan Cyr http://www.cyr.info http://www.weddingweblog.com cyrj@cyr.info
I'm concerned but don't have the energy or power to do much about it. The least I can do is to blog about it :) On 2/7/06, Jonathan Cyr <cyrj@cyr.info> wrote:
Hello,
Is there any concern about naming confusion with the new VOIP browser extension called "Zoep" (from Slashdot this morning).
Mozilla Firebird became FireFox, due to naming confusion. Should these folks continue with such a similar name? Is anyone concerned?
Two cents,
-Jon
-- Jonathan Cyr http://www.cyr.info http://www.weddingweblog.com cyrj@cyr.info
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Decided to look it up... Interesting page at... http://www.zope.com/about_us/legal/trademark.html How important is the Zope brand and trademark? Will any action be worth the effort/cost? What/Who is the ZTAG Group? Still, just asking questions, -Jon Peter Bengtsson wrote:
I'm concerned but don't have the energy or power to do much about it. The least I can do is to blog about it :)
On 2/7/06, Jonathan Cyr <cyrj@cyr.info> wrote:
Hello,
Is there any concern about naming confusion with the new VOIP browser extension called "Zoep" (from Slashdot this morning).
Mozilla Firebird became FireFox, due to naming confusion. Should these folks continue with such a similar name? Is anyone concerned?
Two cents,
-Jon
-- Jonathan Cyr http://www.cyr.info http://www.weddingweblog.com cyrj@cyr.info
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-- Jonathan Cyr http://www.cyr.info http://www.weddingweblog.com cyrj@cyr.info
I think there is potential for confusion. Both Zope Corp and teh Zope Foundation should send cease and desist letters. On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Jonathan Cyr wrote:
Hello,
Is there any concern about naming confusion with the new VOIP browser extension called "Zoep" (from Slashdot this morning).
Mozilla Firebird became FireFox, due to naming confusion. Should these folks continue with such a similar name? Is anyone concerned?
Two cents,
-Jon
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I debated bringing it up, glad I did. -Jon Dennis Allison wrote:
I think there is potential for confusion. Both Zope Corp and teh Zope Foundation should send cease and desist letters.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Jonathan Cyr wrote:
Hello,
Is there any concern about naming confusion with the new VOIP browser extension called "Zoep" (from Slashdot this morning).
Mozilla Firebird became FireFox, due to naming confusion. Should these folks continue with such a similar name? Is anyone concerned?
Two cents,
-Jon
-- Jonathan Cyr http://www.cyr.info http://www.weddingweblog.com cyrj@cyr.info
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:55:02 -0800, Dennis Allison <allison@shasta.stanford.edu> wrote:
I think there is potential for confusion. Both Zope Corp and teh Zope Foundation should send cease and desist letters.
Zope Foundation does not have anything to do with the trademark, unfortunately. That is Zope Corporation's property, and part of their "equities", according to them. A summary of the situation: http://www.zopezen.org/Members/limi/zc-communitychat -- _____________________________________________________________________ Alexander Limi · Chief Architect · Plone Solutions · Norway Consulting · Training · Development · http://www.plonesolutions.com _____________________________________________________________________ Plone Co-Founder · http://plone.org · Connecting Content Plone Foundation · http://plone.org/foundation · Protecting Plone
It is a legitimate concern for everyone in the Zope community regardless of what entity owns and controls the trademark. On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:55:02 -0800, Dennis Allison <allison-IUYf/+B+A6A4dDKx2pfrY5Vzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I think there is potential for confusion. Both Zope Corp and teh Zope Foundation should send cease and desist letters.
Zope Foundation does not have anything to do with the trademark, unfortunately. That is Zope Corporation's property, and part of their "equities", according to them.
A summary of the situation:
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:08:24 -0800, Jonathan Cyr <cyrj@cyr.info> wrote:
Hello,
Is there any concern about naming confusion with the new VOIP browser extension called "Zoep" (from Slashdot this morning).
Mozilla Firebird became FireFox, due to naming confusion. Should these folks continue with such a similar name? Is anyone concerned?
Absolutely a legitimate problem, I think - in addition to the fact that the Zope trademark isn't owned by the Zope Foundation. (Look out for the new J2EE Zope technology once the value of the Zope brand exceeds the assets of Zope Corp). As an aside, this posting in the comments on Slashdot was hilarious: """ Announcing: Ploen Ploen is an out-of-the-box ready VoIP system that is built on the powerful and free Zoep client-side VoIP engine. It requires minimal effort to set up, is deeply flexible, and provides you with a system for managing VoIP that is ideal for project groups, communities and intranets. And it goes 0 - 60 mph in 5 seconds, as you can see from the Ploen site. http://www.ploen.org """ Certainly made my day :D -- _____________________________________________________________________ Alexander Limi · Chief Architect · Plone Solutions · Norway Consulting · Training · Development · http://www.plonesolutions.com _____________________________________________________________________ Plone Co-Founder · http://plone.org · Connecting Content Plone Foundation · http://plone.org/foundation · Protecting Plone
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